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So no 90 million employee payoff for this mid ranking fellow then? I know nothing of the case but this feels like another 'I was at a party two years ago and s

So no 90 million employee payoff for this mid ranking fellow then? I know nothing of the case but this feels like another 'I was at a party two years ago and someone made an unwanted advance' allegation. Did the accuser subsequently join Google? Was her job competitive to the accused and was he inappropriate at work after this alleged event? Given Google being conceived and founded at Burning Man and their founders 'interesting' relationships with partners running Youtube etc the whole premise of HR decisions based on allegations appears to be very one sided towards any accuser.

aylmao 8y ago
The article says it: > He said that X decided not to hire Simpson before she went to Burning Man and that he did not realize she had not been informed. Also, the guy admitted it was "an error of judgement". When the accused admits he was wrong, I don't think it's an "accusation" as much as a fact.
- olivermarks 8y ago
  Right, but is X subsequently a Google employee anyway? My concern is how vulnerable the average male is to being fired for making past unwanted passes/propositions at women. In many cases this may well be merited if the guy is jerk - and this may be the case here - but in many other instances this seems all to easy to abuse from an accusing perspective
  - aylmao 8y ago
    We're all vulnerable to smear and false accusations. Anyone could claim right now that you sold company secrets to a competitor, yet we don't worry about that because most people are not liars or jerks and would face repercussions themselves if proven wrong.
    - olivermarks 8y ago
      'we don't worry about that because most people are not liars or jerks and would face repercussions themselves if proven wrong.' ...you would hope, yes.
rongenre 8y ago
Consider reading the article before commenting.
- olivermarks 8y ago
  I read the NYT version because, as others have said, the SFGate is nearly as infested with poop as the local BART elevators and practically unusable. I did read the article, which is very vague, hence my comments. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/30/technology/alphabet-executive-sexual-harassment-resigns.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/30/technology/alphabet-execu... I think you will get the perspective of the writer from his Twitter feed. https://twitter.com/daiwaka?lang=en https://twitter.com/daiwaka?lang=en Here is the accuser's twitter https://twitter.com/starsandrobots https://twitter.com/starsandrobots No idea where she works, too busy to look. I've been to Burning Man, I know Google and valley culture reasonably well, and I am very interested in gender politics and weaponized sex right now.
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aylmao 8y ago

The article says it: > He said that X decided not to hire Simpson before she went to Burning Man and that he did not realize she had not been informed. Also, the guy admitted it was "an error of judgement". When the accused admits he was wrong, I don't think it's an "accusation" as much as a fact.

olivermarks 8y ago
Right, but is X subsequently a Google employee anyway? My concern is how vulnerable the average male is to being fired for making past unwanted passes/propositions at women. In many cases this may well be merited if the guy is jerk - and this may be the case here - but in many other instances this seems all to easy to abuse from an accusing perspective
- aylmao 8y ago
  We're all vulnerable to smear and false accusations. Anyone could claim right now that you sold company secrets to a competitor, yet we don't worry about that because most people are not liars or jerks and would face repercussions themselves if proven wrong.
  - olivermarks 8y ago
    'we don't worry about that because most people are not liars or jerks and would face repercussions themselves if proven wrong.' ...you would hope, yes.

rongenre 8y ago

Consider reading the article before commenting.

olivermarks 8y ago
I read the NYT version because, as others have said, the SFGate is nearly as infested with poop as the local BART elevators and practically unusable. I did read the article, which is very vague, hence my comments. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/30/technology/alphabet-executive-sexual-harassment-resigns.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/30/technology/alphabet-execu... I think you will get the perspective of the writer from his Twitter feed. https://twitter.com/daiwaka?lang=en https://twitter.com/daiwaka?lang=en Here is the accuser's twitter https://twitter.com/starsandrobots https://twitter.com/starsandrobots No idea where she works, too busy to look. I've been to Burning Man, I know Google and valley culture reasonably well, and I am very interested in gender politics and weaponized sex right now.

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