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I agree that's a problem, but to fault Europeans is about as stupid as faulting Muslims for not figuring out how to make new jobs. Even the "worst" immigrants i
by tomp 8y ago
I agree that's a problem, but to fault Europeans is about as stupid as faulting Muslims for not figuring out how to make new jobs. Even the "worst" immigrants into the US (Mexicans) can find (shitty) jobs (the "best" immigrants - Asians - are a success story in all categories so they're usually ignored in these discussions).
But the obvious solutions to this problem, regardless of who's fault it is, is to not import people if you can't offer them jobs/health/education/language courses.
- FiveSquared 8y agoThen offer them the courses then! The EU and the US already do this! And besides, what is the benefit of keeping out potential businesspeople(Sergi was a immigrant and Andy Grove was a refugee), doctors, programmers, and more while birth rates and education stagnate?
- tomp 8y agoWe do! But resources aren't infinite, so there must be limits.
- inscionent 8y agoWe could afford all of these things, but for inefficiencies in the system. Calling human individuals with similar heritages by monikers of worst and best is a gross overgeneralization. The obvious solution is, there isn't one.
- tomp 8y ago> gross overgeneralization Yeah I know that's why I put it in quotes. But that's how they're commonly perceived in media and academic institutions.
- inscionent 8y agoHow is that a justification for reiterating the falsehood that one nationality is inherently inferior to others? I prefer to not use hateful rhetoric even if the "media" does it.
- abakker 8y agoI suppose it is possible that many people find a system with some inefficiency to be practically nicer, easier, and more functional than one with absolutely perfect utilization, allocation, and efficiency. efficiency in a systems problem is almost never easy, and it requires everyone who participates to put forth their fullest effort. It is telling to me that when people are unconstrained by space/cost/time, they don't tend to create extremely efficient situations, but in fact prefer those that intentionally less so.
- inscionent 8y agoIndividuals with power absolutely prefer an inefficient system. Arbitrage and gatekeeping ensure their power in the future.
- damnyou 8y agoThat happens because the US provides people that come here for humanitarian reasons work permits. Europe does not.