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What's so bad about the resistive touch screens?

Brashman 16y ago
I assume the resistive touch screen doesn't do multi-touch. In addition, it is probably less sensitive since it will require a bit of pressure and not just touch.
- lusis 16y ago
  Exactly. the augen ships with a stylus which is annoying to have to pull out. I literally have an impossible time dragging down the notification shade on this thing. One nice thing about the Augen is that there are some custom roms for it that speed it up considerably. As soon as I get my Galaxy tab, i'll probably donate this one to some hacker cause.
lukifer 16y ago
No multitouch, and responds better to a small hard tap than a large soft finger. Unlike iDevices, women with long fingernails would probably find it works better for them; for everyone else, a stylus is practically a necessity. Not the end of the world, but a subpar experience if you're used to a capacitive touchscreen.
- andreyf 16y ago
  I hate being the city snob, but are we really cheering on the incoming mass of people that are OK with using resistive touch screen onto our apps/websites? Try this test: take a resistive touchscreen and a capacitive touchscreen, and scroll through a long list of names (like the address book). Drop your finger to stop the scrolling when you see a name zoom by. Come back and tell me which one was better. Apple is slowly incrementing the specifics of scrolling gestures across their technologies... the same scrolling gestures that works on my phone work on my macbook (except they're inverted, what's up with that?).
  - blasdel 16y ago
    On the iOS device you're moving the document, on the WIMP computer you're moving the viewport.
  - regularfry 16y ago
    > I hate being the city snob, but are we really cheering on the incoming mass of people that are OK with using resistive touch screen onto our apps/websites? Yes, because until capacitives drop in price enough to make resistives utterly redundant, devices like this mean that they're going to represent 80% of the market (well, for some markets. Markets which it would be foolish to ignore). The people who have iPads now are lead users. Give it six months to a year, and the mainstream will catch up; the vast majority won't be buying iPads because they're seen (and priced) as premium products. Besides, modern resistives don't have to be that bad. The one on my Nokia N900 is more than usable, and I have no issues whipping the stylus out for detail work. Unless we explicitly opt out of being accessible to the mass market, it's incumbent on us to make our apps and websites work well for as many types of interface as possible. If the flick-and-stop gesture for contact searching doesn't work well on the majority of devices, then we need to find something which does. Just because Apple have picked something they can uniformly implement across their range doesn't naturally make it the best option for everyone; in fact, they're more likely to pick something that only they can implement well as a differentiator.
    - andreyf 16y ago
      I think your points really get at the heart of the matter, thanks :) I think the flick-and-stop gesture is truly brilliant HCI, and Apple went through a lot of testing before figuring out exactly how fast things should scroll for each piece of hardware they make. Once people are used to it, it truly becomes second nature, and doubly so because it's consistent across devices (with the exception that on the MB line, you "scroll the camera", while on the iPhone you "scroll the page"). Again, I'm conscious of my solipsism, I wouldn't want to create apps for users that don't know how to scroll on a trackpad or use the 'enter' key for the same reason I imagine making bikes targeted at professional athletes is a lot more fun than for recreational consumers.
adolph 16y ago
Well, you have to press in a little to get the screen to register a touch. The practical outcome of this is that you want to use a stylus or something relatively hard and sharp instead of your finger. The screen's plastic is relatively soft and thus is easily scratched.

I assume the resistive touch screen doesn't do multi-touch. In addition, it is probably less sensitive since it will require a bit of pressure and not just touch.

lusis 16y ago
Exactly. the augen ships with a stylus which is annoying to have to pull out. I literally have an impossible time dragging down the notification shade on this thing. One nice thing about the Augen is that there are some custom roms for it that speed it up considerably. As soon as I get my Galaxy tab, i'll probably donate this one to some hacker cause.

lukifer 16y ago

No multitouch, and responds better to a small hard tap than a large soft finger. Unlike iDevices, women with long fingernails would probably find it works better for them; for everyone else, a stylus is practically a necessity. Not the end of the world, but a subpar experience if you're used to a capacitive touchscreen.

andreyf 16y ago
I hate being the city snob, but are we really cheering on the incoming mass of people that are OK with using resistive touch screen onto our apps/websites? Try this test: take a resistive touchscreen and a capacitive touchscreen, and scroll through a long list of names (like the address book). Drop your finger to stop the scrolling when you see a name zoom by. Come back and tell me which one was better. Apple is slowly incrementing the specifics of scrolling gestures across their technologies... the same scrolling gestures that works on my phone work on my macbook (except they're inverted, what's up with that?).
- blasdel 16y ago
  On the iOS device you're moving the document, on the WIMP computer you're moving the viewport.
- regularfry 16y ago
  > I hate being the city snob, but are we really cheering on the incoming mass of people that are OK with using resistive touch screen onto our apps/websites? Yes, because until capacitives drop in price enough to make resistives utterly redundant, devices like this mean that they're going to represent 80% of the market (well, for some markets. Markets which it would be foolish to ignore). The people who have iPads now are lead users. Give it six months to a year, and the mainstream will catch up; the vast majority won't be buying iPads because they're seen (and priced) as premium products. Besides, modern resistives don't have to be that bad. The one on my Nokia N900 is more than usable, and I have no issues whipping the stylus out for detail work. Unless we explicitly opt out of being accessible to the mass market, it's incumbent on us to make our apps and websites work well for as many types of interface as possible. If the flick-and-stop gesture for contact searching doesn't work well on the majority of devices, then we need to find something which does. Just because Apple have picked something they can uniformly implement across their range doesn't naturally make it the best option for everyone; in fact, they're more likely to pick something that only they can implement well as a differentiator.
  - andreyf 16y ago
    I think your points really get at the heart of the matter, thanks :) I think the flick-and-stop gesture is truly brilliant HCI, and Apple went through a lot of testing before figuring out exactly how fast things should scroll for each piece of hardware they make. Once people are used to it, it truly becomes second nature, and doubly so because it's consistent across devices (with the exception that on the MB line, you "scroll the camera", while on the iPhone you "scroll the page"). Again, I'm conscious of my solipsism, I wouldn't want to create apps for users that don't know how to scroll on a trackpad or use the 'enter' key for the same reason I imagine making bikes targeted at professional athletes is a lot more fun than for recreational consumers.

adolph 16y ago

Well, you have to press in a little to get the screen to register a touch. The practical outcome of this is that you want to use a stylus or something relatively hard and sharp instead of your finger. The screen's plastic is relatively soft and thus is easily scratched.