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This is the most under rated comment in this thread. Don't know what the Google management is thinking at this point in time. But I'm damn sure, unless you are

by kamaal 8y ago

This is the most under rated comment in this thread. Don't know what the Google management is thinking at this point in time. But I'm damn sure, unless you are making it rain hundreds of millions in dollars, and you are a part of these pre-unionizing exercises- You are very likely getting marked up as a trouble maker, and may be already a part of purge lists. This is also a small industry. You don't want your name to smeared as a person who comes with a high trouble/contribution ratio. Nobody wants to hire people to do their jobs, and get employees running their part time political projects with their fellow colleagues in paid office time, on office issues. There are also a huge range legal landmines you are likely to step over even without active knowledge that you are.

pjc50 8y ago
> You are very likely getting marked up as a trouble maker, and may be already a part of purge lists. This is also extremely illegal in the EU. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36242312 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36242312
- rurban 8y ago
  And of course it's practised all over. Also in Europe.
- PopsiclePete 8y ago
  That's ridiculous though. You can't prove that I, having looked at some super-secret "purge list" and proceeded to not hire you, did it because of the "purge list"? I'll just say you weren't a good fit for the "company culture" and that'll be that.
  - pjc50 8y ago
    Having the blacklist at all was deemed to be a violation of data protection law.
smacktoward 8y ago
> This is also a small industry. You don't want your name to smeared as a person who comes with a high trouble/contribution ratio. What you are suggesting is called "blacklisting." You may be interested to learn that in many states it is illegal behavior itself. See https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/employee-rights-book/chapter10-9.html https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/employee-.... > Nobody wants to hire people to do their jobs, and get employees running their part time political projects with their fellow colleagues in paid office time, on office issues. Union organizing is not a "part time political project," it is a legally protected right. See https://www.nlrb.gov/rights-we-protect/whats-law/employees/i-am-not-represented-union/your-rights-during-union-organizing https://www.nlrb.gov/rights-we-protect/whats-law/employees/i....
- kamaal 8y ago
  Nobody ever gets interview feedbacks in this industry. What you are saying is true, but its always impossible to establish intentions. And either way you have to sue. All the best ever getting a job if you are known to do legal fights against prospective employers. >>Union organizing is not a "part time political project," it is a legally protected right. One believes in these things only until they become managers themselves. And every one aspires to be one in this industry.
  - smacktoward 8y ago
    > One believes in these things only until they become managers themselves. The law isn't Tinker Bell, it doesn't require you to believe in it to exist. > And every one aspires to be one in this industry. It's difficult to think of anything sadder than a person who assents to his own exploitation in the hopes that maybe, someday, he will get to exploit someone else.
    - kamaal 8y ago
      I rest my case, sir. I also wish you the very best with your activism.
    - 8y ago
CydeWeys 8y ago
You're underestimating how many people are involved in these walkouts. Well over a thousand participated in the NYC office one, for example. And even if this were true, some things are worth taking risks over.

by kamaal 8y ago

pjc50 8y ago

> You are very likely getting marked up as a trouble maker, and may be already a part of purge lists. This is also extremely illegal in the EU. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36242312 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36242312

rurban 8y ago
And of course it's practised all over. Also in Europe.
PopsiclePete 8y ago
That's ridiculous though. You can't prove that I, having looked at some super-secret "purge list" and proceeded to not hire you, did it because of the "purge list"? I'll just say you weren't a good fit for the "company culture" and that'll be that.
- pjc50 8y ago
  Having the blacklist at all was deemed to be a violation of data protection law.

smacktoward 8y ago

> This is also a small industry. You don't want your name to smeared as a person who comes with a high trouble/contribution ratio. What you are suggesting is called "blacklisting." You may be interested to learn that in many states it is illegal behavior itself. See https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/employee-rights-book/chapter10-9.html https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/employee-.... > Nobody wants to hire people to do their jobs, and get employees running their part time political projects with their fellow colleagues in paid office time, on office issues. Union organizing is not a "part time political project," it is a legally protected right. See https://www.nlrb.gov/rights-we-protect/whats-law/employees/i-am-not-represented-union/your-rights-during-union-organizing https://www.nlrb.gov/rights-we-protect/whats-law/employees/i....

kamaal 8y ago
Nobody ever gets interview feedbacks in this industry. What you are saying is true, but its always impossible to establish intentions. And either way you have to sue. All the best ever getting a job if you are known to do legal fights against prospective employers. >>Union organizing is not a "part time political project," it is a legally protected right. One believes in these things only until they become managers themselves. And every one aspires to be one in this industry.
- smacktoward 8y ago
  > One believes in these things only until they become managers themselves. The law isn't Tinker Bell, it doesn't require you to believe in it to exist. > And every one aspires to be one in this industry. It's difficult to think of anything sadder than a person who assents to his own exploitation in the hopes that maybe, someday, he will get to exploit someone else.
  - kamaal 8y ago
    I rest my case, sir. I also wish you the very best with your activism.
  - 8y ago

CydeWeys 8y ago

You're underestimating how many people are involved in these walkouts. Well over a thousand participated in the NYC office one, for example. And even if this were true, some things are worth taking risks over.