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> Why would google not at least have an incentive they'd have to work against, to add tracking into their sign in pages? You're signing in. That's literally as

> Why would google not at least have an incentive they'd have to work against, to add tracking into their sign in pages? You're signing in. That's literally asking them to identify you across pages so you can have access to them.

thaumasiotes 8y ago
No it isn't; that's just a side effect of the bolted-on implementation of cookies. Signing in is literally asking them to identify you on one page so you can have access to that page.
- magicalist 8y ago
  ha well turn off javascript too and you won't be able to use even hackernews, so good luck with that.
  - cesarb 8y ago
    Hacker News works perfectly fine without Javascript. In fact, I don't think I've ever enabled Javascript here on Hacker News.
    - magicalist 8y ago
      > Hacker News works perfectly fine without Javascript. keyword being "too". > In fact, I don't think I've ever enabled Javascript here on Hacker News. I mean, that's super, but it's just one more point in the column of how HN's population is out of touch with any regular person. It's really annoying to wait for the page reload on even a fast network, and good luck finding your place again if a thread is even moderately busy.
      - lovich 8y ago
        Ctrl f. But yes hacker news doesn't have the greatest UI. Back to your main point. I don't think it's out of touch. It's different information or values. Do you think it's not annoying for me to not have JavaScript and have slow or broken pages? I know and feel the same thing, and I imagine anyone using no script does as well. It's just not worth it to me to let privacy be degraded for some speed. I think this is due more heavily to being more informed about the situation than the average person, rather than different values. When Facebook starting getting in the news about all their privacy violations, Facebook MAU went down and the number of accounts deleted went up. That indicates that once people are aware of what is going on, they make similar choices about interacting with the companies. The difference between many people on hacker news and the average populace is that we can both install something like noscript, and have a rough idea of how to interpret the options on it.
      - JoshMnem 8y ago
        I leave JS off on this site and vote by middle clicking. There is no wait for a page reload. In any case, you don't have to search for your place again, because the browser reloads with that comment on the top.

thaumasiotes 8y ago

No it isn't; that's just a side effect of the bolted-on implementation of cookies. Signing in is literally asking them to identify you on one page so you can have access to that page.

magicalist 8y ago
ha well turn off javascript too and you won't be able to use even hackernews, so good luck with that.
- cesarb 8y ago
  Hacker News works perfectly fine without Javascript. In fact, I don't think I've ever enabled Javascript here on Hacker News.
  - magicalist 8y ago
    > Hacker News works perfectly fine without Javascript. keyword being "too". > In fact, I don't think I've ever enabled Javascript here on Hacker News. I mean, that's super, but it's just one more point in the column of how HN's population is out of touch with any regular person. It's really annoying to wait for the page reload on even a fast network, and good luck finding your place again if a thread is even moderately busy.
    - lovich 8y ago
      Ctrl f. But yes hacker news doesn't have the greatest UI. Back to your main point. I don't think it's out of touch. It's different information or values. Do you think it's not annoying for me to not have JavaScript and have slow or broken pages? I know and feel the same thing, and I imagine anyone using no script does as well. It's just not worth it to me to let privacy be degraded for some speed. I think this is due more heavily to being more informed about the situation than the average person, rather than different values. When Facebook starting getting in the news about all their privacy violations, Facebook MAU went down and the number of accounts deleted went up. That indicates that once people are aware of what is going on, they make similar choices about interacting with the companies. The difference between many people on hacker news and the average populace is that we can both install something like noscript, and have a rough idea of how to interpret the options on it.
    - JoshMnem 8y ago
      I leave JS off on this site and vote by middle clicking. There is no wait for a page reload. In any case, you don't have to search for your place again, because the browser reloads with that comment on the top.