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So, has MyPinPad actually tried raising their salary offering to £100k? I find it very hard to believe they have, because that would be well-above the average f

So, has MyPinPad actually tried raising their salary offering to £100k? I find it very hard to believe they have, because that would be well-above the average for the area. In relation to standard Web Developer roles, it'd be over double what I could expect in Cardiff for a mid-to-senior level role. Their website currently says "up to £60k", and in my experience companies that say "up to" will rarely go to that number unless the candidate is very/over qualified, in which case that candidate has zero potential for growth and will have a hard time getting an annual raise unless things go brilliantly. MyPinPad look like a reasonably large company, so their salary offering right now is probably average or above, but the article itself is absolute crap. If MyPinPad were to offer £100k for their Services Developer role I'd beat their door down for an interview. It's double what I'm getting in Bristol right now, I have C# and non-CLR expeirence, and the commute would be worth it. Hell, for that money I could drive in, pay an obscene amount for parking and still be ahead! I don't buy for a second that they have failed to get devs in when offering £100k. Either they're full of shit, or they are terrible at advertising roles.

bshimmin 8y ago
I agree with everything you're saying, apart from the very last clause - they made it to the "Most Read" on the BBC News web site, so I think they must be pretty good at advertising themselves!
pjungwir 8y ago
There was an article last year titled, "I’d Pay You $500k a Year, but You Can’t Do the Work". It said they were looking for "React/Redux specialists, Unity developers, data scientists, and data engineers (proficient with TensorFlow), technical project managers (who used to do the above, but have evolved into managers), and technical account executives". So $500k for React programmers. (Also note the hero image.) But there was no careers page, no call-to-action to apply, or as far as I could tell any way to contact them at all. Here's what I wrote then: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14248550 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14248550 It sounds like today's company is similarly interested in getting some press and maybe influencing immigration policy, not in getting applications.
digianarchist 8y ago
Right. 100k probably included their end of National Insurance, recruiter fees and all that hidden costs that don't end up in a persons final compensation.
- EnderMB 8y ago
  That's what I initially thought, but even with my rough estimates of around £8500 in NI from the employer, and around £9-10,000 in recruitment fees (assuming roughly 15% of the first year salary, which is already pretty high) - with all of this rounded up to roughly £20k, that's still a full £20k short of what the article says if they were to hire someone for the maximum £60k a year. The easy argument is that they're full of shit. My guess is that the only way they can attract people to Cardiff is to raise salaries, but even £60k (which is a good salary for Cardiff) isn't enough to stop people from chasing the big bucks in London. They don't want to pay more than £60k, so their alternative is to complain that salaries aren't enough and that the problem is out of their control.

bshimmin 8y ago

I agree with everything you're saying, apart from the very last clause - they made it to the "Most Read" on the BBC News web site, so I think they must be pretty good at advertising themselves!

pjungwir 8y ago

There was an article last year titled, "I’d Pay You $500k a Year, but You Can’t Do the Work". It said they were looking for "React/Redux specialists, Unity developers, data scientists, and data engineers (proficient with TensorFlow), technical project managers (who used to do the above, but have evolved into managers), and technical account executives". So $500k for React programmers. (Also note the hero image.) But there was no careers page, no call-to-action to apply, or as far as I could tell any way to contact them at all. Here's what I wrote then: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14248550 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14248550 It sounds like today's company is similarly interested in getting some press and maybe influencing immigration policy, not in getting applications.

digianarchist 8y ago

Right. 100k probably included their end of National Insurance, recruiter fees and all that hidden costs that don't end up in a persons final compensation.

EnderMB 8y ago
That's what I initially thought, but even with my rough estimates of around £8500 in NI from the employer, and around £9-10,000 in recruitment fees (assuming roughly 15% of the first year salary, which is already pretty high) - with all of this rounded up to roughly £20k, that's still a full £20k short of what the article says if they were to hire someone for the maximum £60k a year. The easy argument is that they're full of shit. My guess is that the only way they can attract people to Cardiff is to raise salaries, but even £60k (which is a good salary for Cardiff) isn't enough to stop people from chasing the big bucks in London. They don't want to pay more than £60k, so their alternative is to complain that salaries aren't enough and that the problem is out of their control.