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Watch the MRI scan of a 35 yo alcoholic and the MRI scan of a 35 yo heavy pot smoker then do the comparison again. The liver can more or less heal itself until

by IMTDb 8y ago

Watch the MRI scan of a 35 yo alcoholic and the MRI scan of a 35 yo heavy pot smoker then do the comparison again. The liver can more or less heal itself until it's too late. The brain, not so much.

josefresco 8y ago
88,000* people die each year from alcohol-related causes in the United States. Clearly there's more to worry about than your "self healing liver". Also, citation needed for your claim about MRI/brain activity. * https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-health/overview-alcohol-consumption/alcohol-facts-and-statistics https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-health/overview-alcohol-co...
- IMTDb 8y ago
  I never ever said that alcohol is nothing to worry about. I just said that the liver heals better than the brain Please refrain from putting word in my mouth (or anyone) in the future. Sample Citation for the MRI : https://academic.oup.com/schizophreniabulletin/article/40/2/287/1944376 https://academic.oup.com/schizophreniabulletin/article/40/2/... And if your next point is "yeah but we know nothing about the long lasting effects after your stop", nature has you covered : https://www.nature.com/articles/npp201744 https://www.nature.com/articles/npp201744
  - moate 8y ago
    From the Abstract: "Future longitudinal studies could help determine whether cannabis use contributes to these observed shape differences or whether they are biomarkers of a vulnerability to the effects of cannabis that predate its misuse." Also, the liver doesn't "heal better" than the brain. If anything, the problem is that Cirrhosis isn't really detected until too late. I would counter that more things cause brain damage than liver damage. Finally, the last study you point to references two other studies that found OPPOSITE results in its discussion, so trying to say that is the definitive answer is scientifically disingenuous. Your data doesn't even help your cause dude. It just shows that further research is needed before going out and making "case closed" proclamations.
  - thecatspaw 8y ago
    Nature seems to cover you for 3 days after smoking, but what about longer times?
exDM69 8y ago
Can you point to a source with such MRI scans? I would like to see.
LMYahooTFY 8y ago
Did you just completely make that up? Not even a mention of a source?
moate 8y ago
https://americanaddictioncenters.org/alcoholism-treatment/mental-effects/ https://americanaddictioncenters.org/alcoholism-treatment/me... Alcohol abuse destroys your brain as well as your liver. It's a substance that creates an actual physical dependence that can kill during withdrawal (something that even heroin doesn't do!). It's an extremely toxic substance. Not trying to make any statements about pot here, just noting that you seem to be grossly misunderstanding the effects of prolonged alcohol abuse on the human body.

by IMTDb 8y ago

Watch the MRI scan of a 35 yo alcoholic and the MRI scan of a 35 yo heavy pot smoker then do the comparison again. The liver can more or less heal itself until it's too late. The brain, not so much.

josefresco 8y ago

88,000* people die each year from alcohol-related causes in the United States. Clearly there's more to worry about than your "self healing liver". Also, citation needed for your claim about MRI/brain activity. * https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-health/overview-alcohol-consumption/alcohol-facts-and-statistics https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-health/overview-alcohol-co...

IMTDb 8y ago
I never ever said that alcohol is nothing to worry about. I just said that the liver heals better than the brain Please refrain from putting word in my mouth (or anyone) in the future. Sample Citation for the MRI : https://academic.oup.com/schizophreniabulletin/article/40/2/287/1944376 https://academic.oup.com/schizophreniabulletin/article/40/2/... And if your next point is "yeah but we know nothing about the long lasting effects after your stop", nature has you covered : https://www.nature.com/articles/npp201744 https://www.nature.com/articles/npp201744
- moate 8y ago
  From the Abstract: "Future longitudinal studies could help determine whether cannabis use contributes to these observed shape differences or whether they are biomarkers of a vulnerability to the effects of cannabis that predate its misuse." Also, the liver doesn't "heal better" than the brain. If anything, the problem is that Cirrhosis isn't really detected until too late. I would counter that more things cause brain damage than liver damage. Finally, the last study you point to references two other studies that found OPPOSITE results in its discussion, so trying to say that is the definitive answer is scientifically disingenuous. Your data doesn't even help your cause dude. It just shows that further research is needed before going out and making "case closed" proclamations.
- thecatspaw 8y ago
  Nature seems to cover you for 3 days after smoking, but what about longer times?

exDM69 8y ago

Can you point to a source with such MRI scans? I would like to see.

LMYahooTFY 8y ago

Did you just completely make that up? Not even a mention of a source?

moate 8y ago

https://americanaddictioncenters.org/alcoholism-treatment/mental-effects/ https://americanaddictioncenters.org/alcoholism-treatment/me... Alcohol abuse destroys your brain as well as your liver. It's a substance that creates an actual physical dependence that can kill during withdrawal (something that even heroin doesn't do!). It's an extremely toxic substance. Not trying to make any statements about pot here, just noting that you seem to be grossly misunderstanding the effects of prolonged alcohol abuse on the human body.