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USA has "camps" where they perform legal slave labor too, with more people. USA is unproportionally targeting one race/ethnicity as well. https://www.prisonpol

USA has "camps" where they perform legal slave labor too, with more people. USA is unproportionally targeting one race/ethnicity as well. https://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/pie2018.html https://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/pie2018.html

kiba 8y ago
Does it matter? At least here we don't sweep it under a rug even if reforms are hard to do.
- guelo 8y ago
  A lot of online attacks on America use our freedoms against us, our free press, our freedom to protest and cause political divisions. Maybe the Chinese are right that "harmony" will make them stronger than our freedoms, but I sure hope not.
whatshisface 8y ago
What fraction of convicted people do you think are innocent in the US? Although US prisons are not ethnically balanced, neither is the crime rate for various reasons including poverty. The subtext of the Chinese camp thing is that we don't think those people deserve to be there. If they were all serial killers then we'd be saying, "let China decide how to punish their own criminals," but from the start we don't agree with what gets you put in a camp in China.
- AlexandrB 8y ago
  > Although US prisons are not ethnically balanced, neither is the crime rate for various reasons including poverty. About 1/4 of prisoners are there because of drugs[1]. Because of the US's punitive drug laws many of these are not dealers but users. In addition, African Americans are much more likely to get "stop and frisked" and get caught with drugs even where whites possess drugs more often[2]. They're also more likely to be arrested for drug offences[2]: > 16% of those who sold drugs were black, but 49% of those arrested for doing so were black The disparity in prison population cannot be explained away by crime rate or poverty demographics. It's the result of selective enforcement and preferential treatment for one group over another. [1] https://www.bjs.gov/content/dcf/duc.cfm https://www.bjs.gov/content/dcf/duc.cfm [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_the_War_on_Drugs#Stops_and_searches https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_the_War_on_Drugs#Stop...

kiba 8y ago

Does it matter? At least here we don't sweep it under a rug even if reforms are hard to do.

guelo 8y ago
A lot of online attacks on America use our freedoms against us, our free press, our freedom to protest and cause political divisions. Maybe the Chinese are right that "harmony" will make them stronger than our freedoms, but I sure hope not.

whatshisface 8y ago

What fraction of convicted people do you think are innocent in the US? Although US prisons are not ethnically balanced, neither is the crime rate for various reasons including poverty. The subtext of the Chinese camp thing is that we don't think those people deserve to be there. If they were all serial killers then we'd be saying, "let China decide how to punish their own criminals," but from the start we don't agree with what gets you put in a camp in China.

AlexandrB 8y ago
> Although US prisons are not ethnically balanced, neither is the crime rate for various reasons including poverty. About 1/4 of prisoners are there because of drugs[1]. Because of the US's punitive drug laws many of these are not dealers but users. In addition, African Americans are much more likely to get "stop and frisked" and get caught with drugs even where whites possess drugs more often[2]. They're also more likely to be arrested for drug offences[2]: > 16% of those who sold drugs were black, but 49% of those arrested for doing so were black The disparity in prison population cannot be explained away by crime rate or poverty demographics. It's the result of selective enforcement and preferential treatment for one group over another. [1] https://www.bjs.gov/content/dcf/duc.cfm https://www.bjs.gov/content/dcf/duc.cfm [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_the_War_on_Drugs#Stops_and_searches https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_the_War_on_Drugs#Stop...