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>> the ports to power two monitors That is great but the problem is having to connect Monitor cables, keyboard cables, Power Cables, etc each time you want to

by syshum 8y ago

>> the ports to power two monitors That is great but the problem is having to connect Monitor cables, keyboard cables, Power Cables, etc each time you want to travel a Dock / Port replicator provide all of those things in a Single Cable or bottom mount connection This it what separates Business Laptops from Consumer Laptops, until System 76 has that they will for ever be a Consumer device not a Business Device.

hardwaresofton 8y ago
Yeah but if you leave these cables on your desk, that's like... <5 minutes of connecting/disconnecting every time you want to move. Most good docks will have a disconnect button which you at least have to press as well. Again I agree it's inconvenient to not have this, but if that's what "business device" means I don't think that distinction is important (at least not to me). When I think of "business device" I think of portability and power -- "workstations", not necessarily whether they have docks/port replicators. I also think that this issue is a knock against the product I'm infaturated with (Oryx Pro) but more the surrounding ecosystem -- surely some vendors will pop up (if not System76 themselves) to remedy this.
- 0xffff2 8y ago
  "<5 minutes of connecting/disconnecting every time you want to move." Seriously? I'm looking for <5 seconds.
  - hardwaresofton 8y ago
    5 minutes was me being very very generous for the sake of argument. Normally it should take an able bodied person <10 seconds to shut a laptop lid and unplug 3 cables that are sitting prominently on the desk. I think it's safe to say we differ here, and that's fine. No the Oryx Pro doesn't have a enterprise-grade dock/port replicator yet. If that's a deal-breaker then that's that, for now at least.
  - adetrest 8y ago
    Speak for yourself. My ThinkPad has 2x DVI, 1x Ethernet, 1x charger, 5x USB, 1x audio connected to the dock. It's a pain and quite a bit more than a few seconds to connect disconnect every time vs pressing the eject button.
- syshum 8y ago
  >>means I don't think that distinction is important (at least not to me). and you would be in the minority of business users. We had major issues with Lenovo discontinued the Bottom mount connector and moved to a cable based unit, users complained ALOT about having to plug in a single cable. >if that's what "business device" means It is not the only factor but it is a factor >. When I think of "business device" I think of portability and power -- "workstations", not necessarily whether they have docks/port replicators. No, portable workstations are a class of unit all to their self, most portable workstations are "business class" however Business or Enterprise vs Consumer is Dell Latitude Line (Enterprise) vs Dell Precision (Consumer) ThinkPad branded (Enterprise) vs Lenovo Branded (Consumer) Generally speaking the consumer products do not have enterprise features including docks, hardware /driver standardization / deployment packs, cheaper in build quality, and a variety of other things that make them enterprise systems

by syshum 8y ago

hardwaresofton 8y ago

Yeah but if you leave these cables on your desk, that's like... <5 minutes of connecting/disconnecting every time you want to move. Most good docks will have a disconnect button which you at least have to press as well. Again I agree it's inconvenient to not have this, but if that's what "business device" means I don't think that distinction is important (at least not to me). When I think of "business device" I think of portability and power -- "workstations", not necessarily whether they have docks/port replicators. I also think that this issue is a knock against the product I'm infaturated with (Oryx Pro) but more the surrounding ecosystem -- surely some vendors will pop up (if not System76 themselves) to remedy this.

0xffff2 8y ago
"<5 minutes of connecting/disconnecting every time you want to move." Seriously? I'm looking for <5 seconds.
- hardwaresofton 8y ago
  5 minutes was me being very very generous for the sake of argument. Normally it should take an able bodied person <10 seconds to shut a laptop lid and unplug 3 cables that are sitting prominently on the desk. I think it's safe to say we differ here, and that's fine. No the Oryx Pro doesn't have a enterprise-grade dock/port replicator yet. If that's a deal-breaker then that's that, for now at least.
- adetrest 8y ago
  Speak for yourself. My ThinkPad has 2x DVI, 1x Ethernet, 1x charger, 5x USB, 1x audio connected to the dock. It's a pain and quite a bit more than a few seconds to connect disconnect every time vs pressing the eject button.
syshum 8y ago
>>means I don't think that distinction is important (at least not to me). and you would be in the minority of business users. We had major issues with Lenovo discontinued the Bottom mount connector and moved to a cable based unit, users complained ALOT about having to plug in a single cable. >if that's what "business device" means It is not the only factor but it is a factor >. When I think of "business device" I think of portability and power -- "workstations", not necessarily whether they have docks/port replicators. No, portable workstations are a class of unit all to their self, most portable workstations are "business class" however Business or Enterprise vs Consumer is Dell Latitude Line (Enterprise) vs Dell Precision (Consumer) ThinkPad branded (Enterprise) vs Lenovo Branded (Consumer) Generally speaking the consumer products do not have enterprise features including docks, hardware /driver standardization / deployment packs, cheaper in build quality, and a variety of other things that make them enterprise systems