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White male, born and raised in the UK, lived and worked in Australia and lately, the Netherlands. 1999: Intern developer at investment bank, £1500/month 2000:
by davedx 8y ago
White male, born and raised in the UK, lived and worked in Australia and lately, the Netherlands.
1999: Intern developer at investment bank, £1500/month
2000: Java Developer at above, £40,000/year
2004: C++ Games Developer in Australia, AU$26,000/year
2006: C++ Games Developer in UK, £27,000/year
2007: C++ Senior Software Engineer in UK, £31,000/year + pension
2011: Java Developer in Netherlands, €44,000/year + pension
2012: C# Unity Developer in Netherlands, €31,800/year
2013: Contract Frontend Developer in NL, €50/hour
2015: Frontend Developer in NL, €50,000/year
2017: Contract Frontend Developer in NL, €75/hour
2018: Contract Frontend Developer in NL, similar to above
Fairly obvious here is that I a) like working in the games industry, b) the pay is much worse in the games industry, and c) that I never ended up staying for long in the games industry...
- remify 8y agoI'm interested in moving to Netherlands. What would you say is the salary for a Full Stack dev with 5 year of experience. I work with Java / Node and have 2 years of experience with Angular.
- davedx 8y agoHi! If you're working in the major cities like Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Utrecht, then it's fairly common to see salaries for a medior of something like 45-55k and more for a senior (I've seen upwards of 70k for some roles in finance). Some other notes to keep in mind when considering moving here: * There is a "30% ruling" for high demand skills workers like in IT that will reduce your income tax [1] * But, income tax in the Netherlands is high! (~40%) [2] * Quality of living, infrastructure, education is great though, arguably the high taxes do you give you a lot back * Healthcare is pretty reasonable but it's a two-tier system that costs a decent amount of your paycheck and still requires you to pay for mandatory insurance If you have any other questions, let me know. [1] https://www.iamexpat.nl/expat-info/dutch-expat-news/expat-tax-netherlands-how-it-works https://www.iamexpat.nl/expat-info/dutch-expat-news/expat-ta... [2] https://thetax.nl/?year=2018&startFrom=Year&salary=50000&allowance=0&socialSecurity=1&retired=0&ruling=0&rulingChoice=normal https://thetax.nl/?year=2018&startFrom=Year&salary=50000&all...
- YorickPeterse 8y agoDutch income taxes should be closer to 30% than 40%. This however depends on various tax discounts you may get. My tax rate is around 33% at the moment if I remember correctly
- adam-a 8y agoI have a similar story to you perhaps: 2009: £16k - Junior dev at games company (Scotland) 2010: £23k - Junior dev at web company (London) 2011: £26k - Dev at startup (London) 2014: £32k - Senior dev at same startup 2015: £350/day - Web freelancer (London) 2017: £220/day - Unity freelancer (London) 2018: £300/day - Unity freelancer (remote) It definitely feels like you can do a lot better as a freelancer in the UK but it's more of a headache in terms of taxes pensions etc, and obviously less secure. And also yeah, games is badly paid compared to other areas.