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A shift from lightning to usb c is apple losing because they didnt donate their port to the spec. They could have "invented" usb c. I understand why they didn
by basch 8y ago
A shift from lightning to usb c is apple losing because they didnt donate their port to the spec. They could have "invented" usb c. I understand why they didnt, but I still prefer lightning to usbc.
They are doing this before the EU makes them do it. What apple did do was force the market to adapt to a plug that can go in both directions. And they thinned out the plug quite nicely, it never needed to be so thick.
- playpause 8y agoWhy do you prefer Lightning to USB-C? Just curious.
- spurcell93 8y agoI prefer it because it feels way better. The snap, and the way the plug feels secure in the socket.... I had a nexus 6p for a year and the plug was so damn unreliable and wiggly. Bought multiple different types but they were all bad. That said, I haven't used any Apple devices with USBC and I would not be surprised if they felt much better.
- elcomet 8y agoFor usb-c, this depends hugely. I've had phones were the plug felt very weak in the socket, and devices with a very satisfying snap and a very strong connection. This is to say that usb-c is not inherently bad, it depends a lot on the hardware (and I'm sure Apple will get it right)
- akvadrako 8y agoThey didn't on the MBP - some of my dongles and cables even with high end equipment lose connections easily.
- ohitsdom 8y agoI have an iPhone and a MacBook with USB-C ports, and my experience has been the exact opposite. The lightning port on my iPhone is really weak, all cords can way too easily lose a connection so my music stops or it stops charging. The USB-C on my laptop snaps in really nicely, I'm never worried about the cable not being fully connected.
- knolan 8y agoSounds like you’ve got some lint in your iPhone’s charging port. I recently used a cocktail stick to remove a big lump of it from my wife’s 6s where she had the same issues. Cable snaps in nicely now.
- ohitsdom 8y agoYeah that's what I was originally hoping, but I've tried cleaning it out a few times with no luck.
- bluedino 8y agoTwo of the usb-c ports on my 2016 MBP has been loose for a while
- usefulcat 8y agoI've had a 6p for ~2.5 years now and only occasionally have troubles, and then only with certain plugs.
- basch 8y agothe snap. and things cant get IN the cable port.
- conradev 8y agoI agree. I will often knock out the USB-C cable from my MacBook when it's on my lap causing it to stop charging, whereas I can hang my phone from a lightning cable.
- gwilkes 8y agoI understand what you mean about the feel but lightning ports have a fundamental physical flaw that is part of its design. The pins are on the iOS device side so if they wear down or break that device needs to be repaired. With USBC, the pins are on the cable side so any damage to them is just a simple cable replacement.
- ckorhonen 8y agoIs this an actual problem? In all my experience I've seen cables fall apart (mainly USB Micro or HDMI) but beyond lint, never had any issues relating to the actual ports. The lightning contacts are flush with the port, so very unlikely to get damaged. On the other hand the USB-C has that fragile looking wafer on the device-side.
- amluto 8y agoLightning is awful. It looks nice, but that’s because all the fiddly bits that are prone to failure are hidden in the port. Ever had your iPhone’s Lightning port fail? It’s not particularly rare, and Apple can’t fix it without replacing the whole phone. USB-C puts the parts that wear out quickly in the cable where they belong.
- defective 8y agoI didn't know that, so I'm glad you mentioned it. I have had at least 20 failed cables and 0 failed ports (of maybe five or six devices) in my experience with Lightning. Actually, I'm not glad you mentioned it since that makes it even more perplexing. I was glad because if a port ever failed I would not have easily diagnosed it because I thought they were pretty good. But it must be my fault the cables are failing....
- Aloha 8y agoMy phones seem to eat cables, at the rate of about one a year, per device, but the ports last the lifetime of the device - which is a huge improvement over microusb.
- amluto 8y agoI’ve had two ports fail. Another issue with lightning: the contacts arc. The middle pin on any non-brand-new cable is almost always a bit burnt — it’s pretty easy to see. I don’t know whether USB-C has mitigations for this.
- basch 8y agobuy cables with kevlar in them. i no longer eat cables per year.
- jen729w 8y agoMy concern with USB-C is lint. My iPhone’s Lightning port regularly collects pocket lint, which I fish out with a toothpick. That’s easy to do. (I notice the lint in there because the Lightning cable doesn’t quite snap in all the way; each time I’ve pushed it in, I’m compressing the lint up at the back of the port, and eventually it gets too much and prevents a solid connection. Only happens about once a year, but it happens.) Looking at a USB-C port, there’s still space for lint but much less space to get in and remove it. Can anyone with a USB-C phone share their experience?
- sunshinerag 8y agoWasn’t USB-C inspired by lightning? There was even talk of Apple engineers helping to get USB-C out.
- simonh 8y agoThey may not have invented it, but 18 of the engineers on the certification work for Apple and they were the first laptop manufacturer to announce support. They’ve pushed heavily and quickly into USB-C so I really don’t see any signs of coercion.
- Dunedan 8y agoAre you sure Apple didn't invent USB-C? There are sources suggesting they did, like https://9to5mac.com/2015/03/14/apple-invent-usb-type-c/ https://9to5mac.com/2015/03/14/apple-invent-usb-type-c/