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Can you put a date on your Thinkpads? Have you used one with Linux in the last 5 or even 10 years? I am comparing my last OS X experience 10.4/2007 macbook to a

by drats 16y ago

Can you put a date on your Thinkpads? Have you used one with Linux in the last 5 or even 10 years? I am comparing my last OS X experience 10.4/2007 macbook to a X200 Thinkpad with Ubuntu 10.10 (along with the Ubuntu desktop versions for the last 5 or so years... pretty simple to just pick a motherboard with supported chipsets), it's like night and day on the software side and the hardware specs are amazing compared to what you can buy with the same cash in Apple's walled garden. edit: You don't say anything about a thinkpad in your reply, so I guess you haven't used Linux on a quality laptop in some time. Even at 5 years, that's still quite a way out. I am open to criticism that things have changed since my 2007 experience too, please point anything out.

jgrahamc 16y ago
The last laptop I installed Ubuntu on was in 2005. I still have that machine and use it occasionally. edit: The machine I installed it on was a Fujitsu Lifebook. I don't recall the actual model number but it was absolute top of the line machine when I bought it. In recent years (2009, 2010) I've used Linux on a couple of Acer machines which we have in the office. The user experience does not appear to have improved when it comes to dealing with annoying problems.
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AlisdairO 16y ago
I installed fedora on a W510 a few weeks ago. It wouldn't suspend, because the kernel USB3 driver has no support for suspending. Having blacklisted the driver, I find that I can now suspend, but USB doesn't move back to the USB2 driver, it just doesn't work. Still working on that one. Fortunately, when attached to a base station the USB2 only ports on that work fine. Your other point that I take issue with is that you can get substantially better hardware outside of apple for the same price. In my experience, a laptop with similar power, battery life, weight, size, and build quality is not a great deal cheaper. Please note that I say this as a lover of linux in many ways. It's a fantastic desktop/server OS, and I think apple's desktop offerings are poor value in comparison, but I can't say I've ever had a good experience with linux on a laptop.

by drats 16y ago

jgrahamc 16y ago

The last laptop I installed Ubuntu on was in 2005. I still have that machine and use it occasionally. edit: The machine I installed it on was a Fujitsu Lifebook. I don't recall the actual model number but it was absolute top of the line machine when I bought it. In recent years (2009, 2010) I've used Linux on a couple of Acer machines which we have in the office. The user experience does not appear to have improved when it comes to dealing with annoying problems.

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AlisdairO 16y ago

I installed fedora on a W510 a few weeks ago. It wouldn't suspend, because the kernel USB3 driver has no support for suspending. Having blacklisted the driver, I find that I can now suspend, but USB doesn't move back to the USB2 driver, it just doesn't work. Still working on that one. Fortunately, when attached to a base station the USB2 only ports on that work fine. Your other point that I take issue with is that you can get substantially better hardware outside of apple for the same price. In my experience, a laptop with similar power, battery life, weight, size, and build quality is not a great deal cheaper. Please note that I say this as a lover of linux in many ways. It's a fantastic desktop/server OS, and I think apple's desktop offerings are poor value in comparison, but I can't say I've ever had a good experience with linux on a laptop.