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I've lived in San Francisco for a while, and it's impossible to socialize here without being confronted by polyamory and openly casual attitudes toward alternat
by madrox 8y ago
I've lived in San Francisco for a while, and it's impossible to socialize here without being confronted by polyamory and openly casual attitudes toward alternative lifestyles. The first time poly came up for me was a meetup at Twitter, of all places. After a couple years here it becomes a norm that everyone here has a kink and is pretty open about it. The people that go to burning man (I, too, am a burner) never fully decompress.
I say all this because I can totally see how someone normalizes to stuff the rest of the world would say isn't ok. I don't think DeVaul is a creep. I think he's lived in the SF cultural bubble too long. Whether he should lose his job for that, I don't know, but I'm one of those people who think intention is 80% of what matters in cases like this.
This is also why I think it's important that tech leadership expands beyond the bay. It's subtle (or maybe to some not so subtle) ways like this that highlight how people here think differently about what should be normal.
- romwell 8y agoThe problem was not kink. The problem was not Burning Man. The problem was: a)Mentioning his relationship status ("poly") to a candidate during the interview b)Asking for a sexual favor off-site while the candidate was still waiting for response This is textbook discrimination. It's good to see him go.[1] [1]https://www.axios.com/executive-accused-of-harassment-at-alphabet-x-unit-is-out-6f583d1e-91e3-4a8b-ae2b-51fd4517ec74.html https://www.axios.com/executive-accused-of-harassment-at-alp...
- KaiserPro 8y agoIt is indeed wrong, for all these points. Even if you subscribe to the "its ok, its a cultural thing" Its wrong for the company Why? because he is suggesting that said person can be hired because of a quality unrelated to what the company needs. It is at this point that "he is an exec and therefore creates value at the company far out weighing this 'temporary impairment of judgement'" becomes null and void. His judgement is causing shareholder harm. Therefore the company should find someone who is able to provide the company with better value and judgement.