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How about most people stop using their mobile phones, or all the other electronics they carry that require charging? I am not going vegetarian on any day. Why?
by jriot 8y ago
How about most people stop using their mobile phones, or all the other electronics they carry that require charging?
I am not going vegetarian on any day. Why? Vegetables don't satisfy my tastes nor do I get enough calories from them for my activity output.
You aren't going to change people's wants and needs because they are different from yours.
- mikestew 8y agoVegetables don't satisfy my tastes nor do I get enough calories from them for my activity output. One can't argue taste, but I can argue caloric intake for high intensity activities. If a guy can win Western States 100 seven times on a vegan diet (Scott Jurek), I'm not going to worry about getting enough calories. But as a vegetarian endurance athlete I'll be the first to admit that taste (for some folks) and convenience (for about everyone) kinda go out the window.
- jriot 8y agoWhen I did ultra-marathons, never hit the 100 miler maker, my body could tolerate less meat, filling it up with carbs. Switching to powerlifting 4 - 5 years ago, my body demands more meat. Demanding in the sense that I can feel a difference when I go without meat i.e., it is stronger when I consume meat. Granted I also went from 160lbs ultra-running to 230lbs powerlifting, so I am sure there is difference in caloric intake due to weight and muscle mass. Do I need to do either? No, but I feel better eating meat and lifting compared to when I don't. -- When I did run ultras, I picked up Scott's book with recipes and tried following it, I felt quite hungry.
- mikestew 8y agoSwitching to powerlifting 4 - 5 years ago Aha, as I suspected! ("Eh? Plenty of runners get by on a vegan diet. Now, power lifters or some such...") I can't speak to that, I'm still a scrawny runner. I mean, I suspect one could still get results with a proper (read: PITA) diet, but then I'd be talking out my arse. Enjoy your steak.
- jriot 8y agoI suspect you are correct though it would be a lot of eating/chewing. At 4,500 calories a day, I am tired of eating as it is. I looked up the PITA diet as I was unfamiliar, it recommends to eat less spicy foods which is tough as a Cajun, but then states to add more chicory which we add to our coffee. Maybe there is a balance!
- mikestew 8y agoBy "PITA" I meant "pain in the ass" because you'll probably have to track down the special hoo-ha bean (I made that up) that can give you the extra protein you need, though you can probably get by with garbanzo beans but they make you fart, and yeah, calories will probably involve some high-calories food that you'll quickly tire of. That's what I meant by PITA.
- jriot 8y agoWell I am an idiot... https://lifespa.com/summer-grocery-list-pitta-reducing-diet/ https://lifespa.com/summer-grocery-list-pitta-reducing-diet/ I just assumed you accidentally left out a 't', but PITA makes more sense and it would be a pain in the ass.
- ainiriand 8y agoHave you ever heard of Kendrick Farris? He is Olympic weightlifter and vegan. https://www.riseofthevegan.com/blog/only-male-us-weightlifter-in-olympics-is-vegan https://www.riseofthevegan.com/blog/only-male-us-weightlifte...
- kiliantics 8y agoCharging a phone has a tiny carbon footprint when compared to being a meat-eater. There is a reason why one is encouraged more by climate scientists than the other.
- jriot 8y agoNot everyone eats meat, but most everyone charges their electronics multiple times a day. People carry a phone, tablet, laptop etc... That all adds up. Plus they replace it every year or two, causing additional foot print. Which doesn't include the shipping of all the materials.
- ainiriand 8y agoThe Ironman winner in Hawaii this year is vegetarian. It is the first person ever to go under 8 hours. So I think that if he can do it you surely can. But if you are putting your taste before the wellbeing of the world then you need to realize that the taste can change. You can have a taste now and a different one in one year time. Don't get me wrong, I've loved hamburgers and big steaks like everyone else, but just not anymore.