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I find these knee jerk reactions fascinating. What about IBM do you know that makes you feel this way? What about Red Hat made you happy to continue using Fedor

by mprev 8y ago

I find these knee jerk reactions fascinating. What about IBM do you know that makes you feel this way? What about Red Hat made you happy to continue using Fedora? What about Canonical makes you consider Ubuntu to be better for your purposes? This feels like the equivalent of switching from cow's milk to almond milk for ethical reasons. There's not an improvement, you're just making a different set of compromises.

mixmastamyk 8y ago
Yeah, have no dog in the race, but was surprised by all the negativity toward IBM yesterday. I don't have nearly the bad feelings towards them that I do say MS or Oracle. Also they've supported Linux a lot, at least ten years ago, unsure if that continues. Basically they exited from all the markets I cared about in recent years and became a non-entity, meh.
- izacus 8y ago
  I guess there's just a lot of us around who had exceedingly terrible experience with anything IBM.
  - mixmastamyk 8y ago
    After a bit of thought remembered the recent episode where they fired their old-timers, that's a negative.
- rnd0 8y ago
  > unsure if that continues. This. This is what is behind the so-called negativity. IBM has been an exemplary open source citizen; but it's very fragmented with conflicting internal fiefdoms which means no one can count on them continuing to be supportive. People are reacting to the scale of the merger, the stakes involved for the community at large (GCC, etc) and what happens with most large mergers and they're very anxious. And not without very good reason...
zaphirplane 8y ago
People using Linux likely have jobs that have brought them in touch (or read) with a negative IBM experience. Off shore IT, out sourced development, large consult and build projects. Then are projecting that onto how redhat will become
- narwally 8y ago
  Not to mention all of us that have had great experiences with Red Hat, and have a hard time seeing their culture surviving more than a few years under IBM. I'd be sad to see anyone acquire Red Hat because they seemed to be thriving and are a great blueprint for what open source can look like in the corporate world. I don't have any personal animosity for IBM, but I loved Red Hat and wanted to see them keep going without having to worry about the influence of a parent company.

by mprev 8y ago

mixmastamyk 8y ago

Yeah, have no dog in the race, but was surprised by all the negativity toward IBM yesterday. I don't have nearly the bad feelings towards them that I do say MS or Oracle. Also they've supported Linux a lot, at least ten years ago, unsure if that continues. Basically they exited from all the markets I cared about in recent years and became a non-entity, meh.

izacus 8y ago
I guess there's just a lot of us around who had exceedingly terrible experience with anything IBM.
- mixmastamyk 8y ago
  After a bit of thought remembered the recent episode where they fired their old-timers, that's a negative.
rnd0 8y ago
> unsure if that continues. This. This is what is behind the so-called negativity. IBM has been an exemplary open source citizen; but it's very fragmented with conflicting internal fiefdoms which means no one can count on them continuing to be supportive. People are reacting to the scale of the merger, the stakes involved for the community at large (GCC, etc) and what happens with most large mergers and they're very anxious. And not without very good reason...

zaphirplane 8y ago

People using Linux likely have jobs that have brought them in touch (or read) with a negative IBM experience. Off shore IT, out sourced development, large consult and build projects. Then are projecting that onto how redhat will become

narwally 8y ago
Not to mention all of us that have had great experiences with Red Hat, and have a hard time seeing their culture surviving more than a few years under IBM. I'd be sad to see anyone acquire Red Hat because they seemed to be thriving and are a great blueprint for what open source can look like in the corporate world. I don't have any personal animosity for IBM, but I loved Red Hat and wanted to see them keep going without having to worry about the influence of a parent company.