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Yeah, no ugly "chin". Problem is, the iPhone X family got rid of the chin... but have the dreaded notch, and not even the mostly acceptable teardrop everyone e

Yeah, no ugly "chin". Problem is, the iPhone X family got rid of the chin... but have the dreaded notch, and not even the mostly acceptable teardrop everyone else standardized on. At least the iPad Pro adopted chinless and also notchless design. First time in years Apple has made a product that isn't weirdly ugly.

ghostly_s 8y ago
"mostly acceptable teardrop everyone else standardized on."?
- dpark 8y ago
  Yeah, that's pretty delusional. I don't think anyone has created a phone with a notch that would accurately be characterized as a teardrop shape. The closest was probably Essential (which inexplicably had a notch and a chin). The Pixel 3 notch is a V shape. The OnePlus notch pretty much looks like an iPhone notch. There's no "standard" and certainly no "standard teardrop shape".
  - metafizikal 8y ago
    What if I have really weirdly shaped tears?
  - screye 8y ago
    I don't blame you. The one plus 6T released yesterday with the teardrop notch. It is trend among chinese phones (Huawei,Oppo, Vivo, OP ..basically BBK electronics) OP 6T is the first phone popular in the west with this style, and I find it to be amazing. Still like the MiMix 3 the most, with no notch. But, the OP 6T is the first one that's not egregious.
  - lozf 8y ago
    Looks more like a "condensation drip about to fall" than a tear drop... Not very catchy though, perhaps "innovative CDATF notch - uses 66% less screen space" would sound hype enough for the Marketing department?
- tromp 8y ago
  far from everyone, but prominent examples are the OnePlus 6T and the Huawei Mate-20: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/r_LNpJOd0ao/maxresdefault.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/r_LNpJOd0ao/maxresdefault.jpg
  - dpark 8y ago
    That's not a "teardrop". Are people actually calling it that? Also, two phones does not make a standard. Even the Mate 20 Pro has an iPhone-style notch.
    - tromp 8y ago
      Both have the slanted sides that I think "passes for" teardrop shaped, although it's clearly more slanted on the OnePlus. And indeed I was referring to the Mate 20 and Mate 20X rather than the Pro.
coldtea 8y ago
>Problem is, the iPhone X family got rid of the chin... but have the dreaded notch, and not even the mostly acceptable teardrop everyone else standardized on. You mean "copied with a tiny alteration". >At least the iPad Pro adopted chinless and also notchless design. First time in years Apple has made a product that isn't weirdly ugly. You probably didn't get the memo, but the "oh my god, it has a notch, oh noes, so ugly" thing some pundits tried to pull died in its birth, and not only competitors copied the notch, but the X itself became the best selling phone. Even ignoring that, everybody pretty much praised the Apple Watch 4 as beautiful as well...
- nikofeyn 8y ago
  there were phones that effectively had a "notch" long before the iphone x. for example, the lg v10 had a second screen directly on top of the main screen with the two front-facing cameras slid over to the left. the second screen was used to access recently opened apps, text messages, settings, flashlight, music control, etc. in general, apple just tells people they invent and do everything the best, and everyone listens. it's funny, because my lg v35 is much thinner and lighter than my girlfriend's new iphone xs max (which has a marginally larger screen), doesn't have a protruding camera lens, and it actually has a headphone jack with a high-end dac (which basically no other phone has). so apple says they need to get rid of the headphone jack to save room, and yet here we are. i specifically avoided the lg v40 because they added the notch. as with the new ipad, i simply don't understand this need to extend the screen all the way to the end of the phone in the long way. this is especially true on the ipad, which i nearly always hold horizontally with my thumb on the perfectly sized bezel. getting rid of the bezel literally adds no functionality for me and actually removes some.
- int_19h 8y ago
  > the "oh my god, it has a notch, oh noes, so ugly" thing some pundits tried to pull died in its birth Did you know that Google had to ship an update for Nexus 3 XL that "disables" the notch in hardware (by making the background for the part of the screen around it black, making it less noticeable), because of how many people complained about it?

ghostly_s 8y ago

"mostly acceptable teardrop everyone else standardized on."?

dpark 8y ago
Yeah, that's pretty delusional. I don't think anyone has created a phone with a notch that would accurately be characterized as a teardrop shape. The closest was probably Essential (which inexplicably had a notch and a chin). The Pixel 3 notch is a V shape. The OnePlus notch pretty much looks like an iPhone notch. There's no "standard" and certainly no "standard teardrop shape".
- metafizikal 8y ago
  What if I have really weirdly shaped tears?
- screye 8y ago
  I don't blame you. The one plus 6T released yesterday with the teardrop notch. It is trend among chinese phones (Huawei,Oppo, Vivo, OP ..basically BBK electronics) OP 6T is the first phone popular in the west with this style, and I find it to be amazing. Still like the MiMix 3 the most, with no notch. But, the OP 6T is the first one that's not egregious.
- lozf 8y ago
  Looks more like a "condensation drip about to fall" than a tear drop... Not very catchy though, perhaps "innovative CDATF notch - uses 66% less screen space" would sound hype enough for the Marketing department?
tromp 8y ago
far from everyone, but prominent examples are the OnePlus 6T and the Huawei Mate-20: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/r_LNpJOd0ao/maxresdefault.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/r_LNpJOd0ao/maxresdefault.jpg
- dpark 8y ago
  That's not a "teardrop". Are people actually calling it that? Also, two phones does not make a standard. Even the Mate 20 Pro has an iPhone-style notch.
  - tromp 8y ago
    Both have the slanted sides that I think "passes for" teardrop shaped, although it's clearly more slanted on the OnePlus. And indeed I was referring to the Mate 20 and Mate 20X rather than the Pro.

coldtea 8y ago

>Problem is, the iPhone X family got rid of the chin... but have the dreaded notch, and not even the mostly acceptable teardrop everyone else standardized on. You mean "copied with a tiny alteration". >At least the iPad Pro adopted chinless and also notchless design. First time in years Apple has made a product that isn't weirdly ugly. You probably didn't get the memo, but the "oh my god, it has a notch, oh noes, so ugly" thing some pundits tried to pull died in its birth, and not only competitors copied the notch, but the X itself became the best selling phone. Even ignoring that, everybody pretty much praised the Apple Watch 4 as beautiful as well...

nikofeyn 8y ago
there were phones that effectively had a "notch" long before the iphone x. for example, the lg v10 had a second screen directly on top of the main screen with the two front-facing cameras slid over to the left. the second screen was used to access recently opened apps, text messages, settings, flashlight, music control, etc. in general, apple just tells people they invent and do everything the best, and everyone listens. it's funny, because my lg v35 is much thinner and lighter than my girlfriend's new iphone xs max (which has a marginally larger screen), doesn't have a protruding camera lens, and it actually has a headphone jack with a high-end dac (which basically no other phone has). so apple says they need to get rid of the headphone jack to save room, and yet here we are. i specifically avoided the lg v40 because they added the notch. as with the new ipad, i simply don't understand this need to extend the screen all the way to the end of the phone in the long way. this is especially true on the ipad, which i nearly always hold horizontally with my thumb on the perfectly sized bezel. getting rid of the bezel literally adds no functionality for me and actually removes some.
int_19h 8y ago
> the "oh my god, it has a notch, oh noes, so ugly" thing some pundits tried to pull died in its birth Did you know that Google had to ship an update for Nexus 3 XL that "disables" the notch in hardware (by making the background for the part of the screen around it black, making it less noticeable), because of how many people complained about it?