> We should feel good that everyone is engaged in dialogue about our grand civic project, right? It is people trapped in their echo chambers. Some chambers a

> We should feel good that everyone is engaged in dialogue about our grand civic project, right? It is people trapped in their echo chambers. Some chambers are better than others (some, much better, but alas). I personally don't hold much hope for things to ever get de-calcified without some kind of large-scale real-world incident to force it. It is almost like two entirely different species of humans at this point who are almost incapable of empathising with each other. (and note, in many cases, refusing to empathise.... I refuse to empathize with alt-right supporters for example.)