> Not sure what violence in Seattle have to do with whether you need to get politically involved. Because that violence, like most issues in life, is rooted in

> Not sure what violence in Seattle have to do with whether you need to get politically involved. Because that violence, like most issues in life, is rooted in politics. You cannot escape politics no matter how much you dislike it. The fact that you want to escape, or even can escape politics is in itself political. The fact that HN for whatever reason discourages politics is also politically driven. Politics is life. Either embrace it or get left out. > virtue signaling 99.9% of the people who use this term are actually committing the "crime" of "virtue signaling". Pot. Kettle. Black. > FB, Twitter and Reddit with actual political involvement leads to more disappointment than progress I would say political involvement (and the manipulation of) FB, Twitter and Reddit are directly responsible for our current regime here in the US. If anything, the key to winning is FB, Twitter and Reddit. Ignore them and you won't win, politically. You make your pathetic jeers at "virtue signaling", but the "virtue signalling" from the alt-right on FB, twitter and reddit is exactly how the 2016 election was won.