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100%. Having a "passion" for politics was abrasive to my relationships with friends throughout high-school and returned very little value to me (save the short-

100%. Having a "passion" for politics was abrasive to my relationships with friends throughout high-school and returned very little value to me (save the short-lived energy I got from stupid internet debates).

doublepg23 8y ago
Some people don't have the ability to not be concerned with politics.
- ThomPete 8y ago
  If you mean like a bad habbit i agree.
  - StudentStuff 8y ago
    Pretty sure doublepg23 was referring to those of us who aren't straight, cis-gendered males. Politics directly affects us, sure the rich among us can run to lavender marriages and try to cover up their innate desires, but the rest of us will end up being fed to the wolves. For us, going to a rural town or even many suburbs elicits the observation "It smells like dead gay people" as you've entered an area where you may get lynched for being yourself. Even here in Seattle, non-straight couples are getting violently assaulted for being out in public with their significant other. The state of affairs is rapidly getting worse for us!
    - ThomPete 8y ago
      Not sure what violence in Seattle have to do with whether you need to get politically involved. There are lots of reasons why people get assaulted most of them have nothing to do with sexual orientation. Yes, you can decide to do something about it politically but you can also choose to just not come to those places again just like a family who can afford it would move away from the ghettos. That doesn't mean you have to be politically involved, it's a choice. Don't get me wrong I don't mind people getting politically involved but in my experience confusing virtue signaling on FB, Twitter and Reddit with actual political involvement leads to more disappointment than progress.
      - StudentStuff 8y ago
        > Not sure what violence in Seattle have to do with whether you need to get politically involved. Violence against minorities has significantly increased as the extreme right has gained power across the USA. > There are lots of reasons why people get assaulted most of them have nothing to do with sexual orientation. We're talking about growing threats here, the rate of assaults and murders against LGBTQ+ and numerous other minorities has significantly increased in the past 3 years, people feel emboldened to hate. > Yes, you can decide to do something about it politically but you can also choose to just not come to those places again just like a family who can afford it would move away from the ghettos. That doesn't mean you have to be politically involved, it's a choice. Wow, holy shit that is a privileged view you have. Most people can't afford to uproot their lives and flee the neighborhoods they live in. These assaults and murders are happening in "safe" neighborhoods, by people who are rolling in with their prejudiced beliefs and taking it out on the first non-straight person they see. I don't see how the fuck we're supposed to move away from them when we are already in the safest places in the USA to be LGBTQ+. > Don't get me wrong I don't mind people getting politically involved but in my experience confusing virtue signaling on FB, Twitter and Reddit with actual political involvement leads to more disappointment than progress. Perhaps you have gained an idea of why those of us who are actively hated by certain groups in the USA can't just "ignore politics". It isn't a bad habit for us, the outcome of many recent political decisions has directly affected us, and things may get worse. If we fail to pay at least some mind to politics, it may end up where all but the rich are shoved back in the closet, or fed to the wolves.
        chrisco255 8y ago
        Do you have any cited evidence to support your assertions about rising violence? And are you sure that "violence against minorities" is not just a general trend? Everything I've read by the way shows that overall violence is way down but it certainly seems like mass shootings are up (but that started with Virginia Tech shooting in 2007 and has been on the rise since). I can't name a single demographic that hasn't been targeted by psychos in the past few years, including white people (like the Vegas shooter who killed 57 country music fans or the Sutherland Springs Baptist Church shooting last year (26 mostly white Christians dead). Psychos are fucking psychos and they get triggered by anything. There's little rhyme or reason to it. By and large gays have equal rights under the law. The fear of lynching is greatly exaggerated. There's ignorant people in the world...but what can be done to prevent these people from being radicalized? I think that's not a political thing but a community thing.

doublepg23 8y ago

Some people don't have the ability to not be concerned with politics.

ThomPete 8y ago
If you mean like a bad habbit i agree.
- StudentStuff 8y ago
  Pretty sure doublepg23 was referring to those of us who aren't straight, cis-gendered males. Politics directly affects us, sure the rich among us can run to lavender marriages and try to cover up their innate desires, but the rest of us will end up being fed to the wolves. For us, going to a rural town or even many suburbs elicits the observation "It smells like dead gay people" as you've entered an area where you may get lynched for being yourself. Even here in Seattle, non-straight couples are getting violently assaulted for being out in public with their significant other. The state of affairs is rapidly getting worse for us!
  - ThomPete 8y ago
    Not sure what violence in Seattle have to do with whether you need to get politically involved. There are lots of reasons why people get assaulted most of them have nothing to do with sexual orientation. Yes, you can decide to do something about it politically but you can also choose to just not come to those places again just like a family who can afford it would move away from the ghettos. That doesn't mean you have to be politically involved, it's a choice. Don't get me wrong I don't mind people getting politically involved but in my experience confusing virtue signaling on FB, Twitter and Reddit with actual political involvement leads to more disappointment than progress.
    - StudentStuff 8y ago
      > Not sure what violence in Seattle have to do with whether you need to get politically involved. Violence against minorities has significantly increased as the extreme right has gained power across the USA. > There are lots of reasons why people get assaulted most of them have nothing to do with sexual orientation. We're talking about growing threats here, the rate of assaults and murders against LGBTQ+ and numerous other minorities has significantly increased in the past 3 years, people feel emboldened to hate. > Yes, you can decide to do something about it politically but you can also choose to just not come to those places again just like a family who can afford it would move away from the ghettos. That doesn't mean you have to be politically involved, it's a choice. Wow, holy shit that is a privileged view you have. Most people can't afford to uproot their lives and flee the neighborhoods they live in. These assaults and murders are happening in "safe" neighborhoods, by people who are rolling in with their prejudiced beliefs and taking it out on the first non-straight person they see. I don't see how the fuck we're supposed to move away from them when we are already in the safest places in the USA to be LGBTQ+. > Don't get me wrong I don't mind people getting politically involved but in my experience confusing virtue signaling on FB, Twitter and Reddit with actual political involvement leads to more disappointment than progress. Perhaps you have gained an idea of why those of us who are actively hated by certain groups in the USA can't just "ignore politics". It isn't a bad habit for us, the outcome of many recent political decisions has directly affected us, and things may get worse. If we fail to pay at least some mind to politics, it may end up where all but the rich are shoved back in the closet, or fed to the wolves.
      - chrisco255 8y ago
        Do you have any cited evidence to support your assertions about rising violence? And are you sure that "violence against minorities" is not just a general trend? Everything I've read by the way shows that overall violence is way down but it certainly seems like mass shootings are up (but that started with Virginia Tech shooting in 2007 and has been on the rise since). I can't name a single demographic that hasn't been targeted by psychos in the past few years, including white people (like the Vegas shooter who killed 57 country music fans or the Sutherland Springs Baptist Church shooting last year (26 mostly white Christians dead). Psychos are fucking psychos and they get triggered by anything. There's little rhyme or reason to it. By and large gays have equal rights under the law. The fear of lynching is greatly exaggerated. There's ignorant people in the world...but what can be done to prevent these people from being radicalized? I think that's not a political thing but a community thing.