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> She really thinks she's "fighting the good fight" by posting a fresh outrage every day. I have a few people in my feed who do this, from both sides. It almos

> She really thinks she's "fighting the good fight" by posting a fresh outrage every day. I have a few people in my feed who do this, from both sides. It almost feels like they've turned into nothing but meme/share-bots. It gets so annoying that I should probably block them already. If you try to call out the content, you either get childishly shouted down because you're on "the other side", or called out as "the problem" because you don't agree with their group-think.

newsbinator 8y ago
> or called out as "the problem" because you don't agree with their group-think. It feels good to have someone verbalize this. I can't enjoy much social media anymore because there's an expectation that discussing anything opinionated requires a preface about what side you're on. Making a politically neutral statement means you're with the enemy (where the enemy is on the side opposite whoever reads your neutral statement). I'm not even referring to politics or discussion of world events: even more futurist/what-if thoughts about how society works/could work. HN is the calmest place to have a discussion with someone, because no one's looking for clues about your personal beliefs and what side you're ostensibly warring for. 9 times out of 10, only the content of your comment seems to matter. As it should be.
- gammateam 8y ago
  > HN is the calmest place to have a discussion with someone, because no one's looking for clues about your personal beliefs and what side you're ostensibly warring for. just scroll to the bottom where everything is downvote-collapsed already, anything that isn't Silicon Valley political echo chamber isn't really discussed holistically and garners the same "you're the enemy" or "you're not in the middle if you don't already agree with me" response as other networks need a patch for this My thoughts are that Americans need a credible external threat for unity, and currently we don't have one. The Cold War thing jumped the shark decades ago and just doesn't have unifying consensus as being a problem for America, the religious extremist story has fallen apart with everyone knowing its all part of our cozy relationship with the House of Saud. So here we are
incompatible 8y ago
It's hard to argue with people who think that a debate is won by finding the best ad-hominem put-down. It's probably not even worth trying, unless you enjoy a kind of rational trolling where you state your case and ignore the responses.

newsbinator 8y ago

> or called out as "the problem" because you don't agree with their group-think. It feels good to have someone verbalize this. I can't enjoy much social media anymore because there's an expectation that discussing anything opinionated requires a preface about what side you're on. Making a politically neutral statement means you're with the enemy (where the enemy is on the side opposite whoever reads your neutral statement). I'm not even referring to politics or discussion of world events: even more futurist/what-if thoughts about how society works/could work. HN is the calmest place to have a discussion with someone, because no one's looking for clues about your personal beliefs and what side you're ostensibly warring for. 9 times out of 10, only the content of your comment seems to matter. As it should be.

gammateam 8y ago
> HN is the calmest place to have a discussion with someone, because no one's looking for clues about your personal beliefs and what side you're ostensibly warring for. just scroll to the bottom where everything is downvote-collapsed already, anything that isn't Silicon Valley political echo chamber isn't really discussed holistically and garners the same "you're the enemy" or "you're not in the middle if you don't already agree with me" response as other networks need a patch for this My thoughts are that Americans need a credible external threat for unity, and currently we don't have one. The Cold War thing jumped the shark decades ago and just doesn't have unifying consensus as being a problem for America, the religious extremist story has fallen apart with everyone knowing its all part of our cozy relationship with the House of Saud. So here we are

incompatible 8y ago

It's hard to argue with people who think that a debate is won by finding the best ad-hominem put-down. It's probably not even worth trying, unless you enjoy a kind of rational trolling where you state your case and ignore the responses.