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A government report estimated 90% die off after 1 year if the lights go out due to solar flare or EMP. You can get a basic 1 year supply of food that will last

by edoo 8y ago

A government report estimated 90% die off after 1 year if the lights go out due to solar flare or EMP. You can get a basic 1 year supply of food that will last 20 years in cool storage for under $1000 shipped. That is 3 months for a family of 4, cheap insurance and peace of mind.

adrianN 8y ago
You also need a cool place to store that food, which probably costs a lot more over twenty years than the food.
- edoo 8y ago
  Cool means average temperature less than 65F. Underground easily meets that in hot areas.
  - adrianN 8y ago
    Most of the 90% that will die probably live in apartments in cities and don't have convenient underground storage.
- TeMPOraL 8y ago
  And enough people skills and/or guns, ammo and training to protect that food. After all, all that 90% of people aren't going to just lie down and die.
  - edoo 8y ago
    To each his own. Just because someone doesn't believe in guns or defending their own property doesn't mean it isn't prudent to have a small emergency stash of food.
    - t1540825608 8y ago
      But also, just because some people don't believe in guns, doesn't mean we should avoid mentioning it. Defense is still an important part of preparation, and guns are the best tools to accomplish that. If someone wants to reject that form of defense on philosophical grounds, they're welcome to, but it's still worth mentioning them as resources for people who may not have such fixed philosophies.
    - TeMPOraL 8y ago
      That's true. I'm only addressing the proposed scenario - projected 90% die-off following a total collapse of modern civilization. At this point you'll have to deal with large amount of desperate, starving people radiating away from cities and towards any and all known farms, warehouses, and food/water sources. But having a food stash is a really good idea anyway, because if a disruption is only temporary (say, a week or a month), it may be a difference between living and dying (or not wanting to live with yourself anymore).
scotty79 8y ago
So you get to live 3 months more to admire how effed you are and then die. Not sure if it's best way to spend 1000 bucks. Unless you count entertainment value of getting and feeling prepared.
- adrianN 8y ago
  There are a number of reasonable scenarios where the worst is over after a few weeks. Earth quakes, solar storms, normal storms... Having a stash of food and water is not completely nuts.
  - scotty79 8y ago
    There are also scenarios where your coin collection might save your life. Collecting coins is also not completely nuts, but the fun of it is nearly all of the value of both hobbies. The fun of picking, buying, storing, so many fun little decisions to make and so, so many scenarios you can occupy your head with till you die or get bored.

by edoo 8y ago

adrianN 8y ago

You also need a cool place to store that food, which probably costs a lot more over twenty years than the food.

edoo 8y ago
Cool means average temperature less than 65F. Underground easily meets that in hot areas.
- adrianN 8y ago
  Most of the 90% that will die probably live in apartments in cities and don't have convenient underground storage.
TeMPOraL 8y ago
And enough people skills and/or guns, ammo and training to protect that food. After all, all that 90% of people aren't going to just lie down and die.
- edoo 8y ago
  To each his own. Just because someone doesn't believe in guns or defending their own property doesn't mean it isn't prudent to have a small emergency stash of food.
  - t1540825608 8y ago
    But also, just because some people don't believe in guns, doesn't mean we should avoid mentioning it. Defense is still an important part of preparation, and guns are the best tools to accomplish that. If someone wants to reject that form of defense on philosophical grounds, they're welcome to, but it's still worth mentioning them as resources for people who may not have such fixed philosophies.
  - TeMPOraL 8y ago
    That's true. I'm only addressing the proposed scenario - projected 90% die-off following a total collapse of modern civilization. At this point you'll have to deal with large amount of desperate, starving people radiating away from cities and towards any and all known farms, warehouses, and food/water sources. But having a food stash is a really good idea anyway, because if a disruption is only temporary (say, a week or a month), it may be a difference between living and dying (or not wanting to live with yourself anymore).

scotty79 8y ago

So you get to live 3 months more to admire how effed you are and then die. Not sure if it's best way to spend 1000 bucks. Unless you count entertainment value of getting and feeling prepared.

adrianN 8y ago
There are a number of reasonable scenarios where the worst is over after a few weeks. Earth quakes, solar storms, normal storms... Having a stash of food and water is not completely nuts.
- scotty79 8y ago
  There are also scenarios where your coin collection might save your life. Collecting coins is also not completely nuts, but the fun of it is nearly all of the value of both hobbies. The fun of picking, buying, storing, so many fun little decisions to make and so, so many scenarios you can occupy your head with till you die or get bored.