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Well, ICAO rules establish who runs the investigation, namely the civil aviation authority of the state of occurrence. Other states (state of registry, operator

by FabHK 8y ago

Well, ICAO rules establish who runs the investigation, namely the civil aviation authority of the state of occurrence. Other states (state of registry, operator, manufacture) might participate, or the state of occurrence might choose to delegate to them. But the official responsibility for the investigation lies with Indonesia for now. https://www.icao.int/about-icao/FAQ/Pages/icao-frequently-asked-questions-faq-10.aspx https://www.icao.int/about-icao/FAQ/Pages/icao-frequently-as...

downandout 8y ago
I didn't say the statement wasn't factually accurate. It's just a little cold, throwing "thoughts and prayers" [1] in with a statement effectively saying don't call us, call someone else. [1] https://youtu.be/T9SKkd79AjQ?t=52 https://youtu.be/T9SKkd79AjQ?t=52
- FabHK 8y ago
  Yeah, and I didn't mean to imply that your summary was inaccurate or tone-deaf; just trying to explain why Boeing basically says "don't call us, call them". Your (and Jeselnik's) criticism of the "thoughts and prayers" cliché is apt, though note one big difference: some of those senators and members of the house that offer "thoughts and prayers" after yet another fatal shooting take NRA money and/or actively block anti-gun legislation, while Boeing and Airbus are genuinely doing all they can to avoid plane crashes, I'd think. So the aircraft manufacturers are much less cynical and hypocritical in offering up that cliché than politicians (faint praise, indeed). EDIT: NRA, not NPR, lol
  - xtreme 8y ago
    NRA has donated a maximum of $9,990 to any politician[1], a rather small amount considering the huge cost of running a campaign. In 2016, the total political contribution of the NRA was roughly $1.1 million[2]. In the meantime, gun control proponent Michael Bloomberg alone has contributed $20 million to Democrat senate candidates[3] in 2018 and is planning to contribute $80 million to house candidates[4] for the midterms. Even if you hate the NRA and what they stand for, claiming that they are buying up politicians with money seems far from the truth. [1] https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/toprecips.php?id=d000000082&cycle=2018 https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/toprecips.php?id=d000000082... [2] https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/totals.php?id=d000000082&cycle=2016 https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/totals.php?id=d000000082&cy... [3] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-bloomberg/bloomberg-donating-20-million-to-democratic-u-s-senate-candidates-idUSKCN1MC2XD https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-bloomberg/bl... [4] https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2018/06/bloomberg-to-spend-a-record-80-million/ https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2018/06/bloomberg-to-spend-...

by FabHK 8y ago

downandout 8y ago

I didn't say the statement wasn't factually accurate. It's just a little cold, throwing "thoughts and prayers" [1] in with a statement effectively saying don't call us, call someone else. [1] https://youtu.be/T9SKkd79AjQ?t=52 https://youtu.be/T9SKkd79AjQ?t=52

FabHK 8y ago
Yeah, and I didn't mean to imply that your summary was inaccurate or tone-deaf; just trying to explain why Boeing basically says "don't call us, call them". Your (and Jeselnik's) criticism of the "thoughts and prayers" cliché is apt, though note one big difference: some of those senators and members of the house that offer "thoughts and prayers" after yet another fatal shooting take NRA money and/or actively block anti-gun legislation, while Boeing and Airbus are genuinely doing all they can to avoid plane crashes, I'd think. So the aircraft manufacturers are much less cynical and hypocritical in offering up that cliché than politicians (faint praise, indeed). EDIT: NRA, not NPR, lol
- xtreme 8y ago
  NRA has donated a maximum of $9,990 to any politician[1], a rather small amount considering the huge cost of running a campaign. In 2016, the total political contribution of the NRA was roughly $1.1 million[2]. In the meantime, gun control proponent Michael Bloomberg alone has contributed $20 million to Democrat senate candidates[3] in 2018 and is planning to contribute $80 million to house candidates[4] for the midterms. Even if you hate the NRA and what they stand for, claiming that they are buying up politicians with money seems far from the truth. [1] https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/toprecips.php?id=d000000082&cycle=2018 https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/toprecips.php?id=d000000082... [2] https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/totals.php?id=d000000082&cycle=2016 https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/totals.php?id=d000000082&cy... [3] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-bloomberg/bloomberg-donating-20-million-to-democratic-u-s-senate-candidates-idUSKCN1MC2XD https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-bloomberg/bl... [4] https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2018/06/bloomberg-to-spend-a-record-80-million/ https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2018/06/bloomberg-to-spend-...