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I believe I am acting well within the official guidelines you have posted for this site (the capitalized words for emphasis i used today are probably the only o

by aviv 8y ago

I believe I am acting well within the official guidelines you have posted for this site (the capitalized words for emphasis i used today are probably the only offense). I am not introducing off-topic flamewars. Fasting as a healing mechanism has been around for centuries and is well documented in medical literature and I only raise it when it is relevant to a submission or ongoing discussion. I do not attack anyone personally and I believe I am being very civil with my comments. I do not find the basis for which you are asking me to cease bringing up a very valid option for one to explore when dealing with a health crisis.

dang 8y ago
I don't want to ban you and don't personally have any objection to your view on this. But you've created so many flamewars by posting about it that your account has basically become a troll on the issue. Indeed users were complaining to us the last time this came up. If you keep doing it, we're going to have to ban you. Regardless of how right you are or feel you are, it's more important to avoid degenerate discussion here.
- aviv 8y ago
  I disagree with my comments being grounds for a ban, at least according to your existing Guidelines. I merely raise the point that fasting should be considered where relevant to the discussion. In each and every health related discussion I joined there is significant evidence that fasting is indeed a viable treatment option. The flamewars you are speaking of are not started by myself, rather by a select few who have opposing beliefs and are using the site features (flagging, downvoting) to express such views. As you mentioned, I've been speaking up about fasting for a long time on HN. I have since received several emails from members here who have taken my comments into consideration and have been successful at resolving various health issues in large part by undertaking a prolonged fast. Banning me plays into the hands of those who would rather this treatment option be silenced and I believe the Flagging feature is being abused by those who are using it anonymously to prevent others from being exposed to it. By banning me you are effectively hindering people's access to a wide variety of health options, and I believe you will be in the wrong by doing so. Therefore I would like to have my comments and activity reviewed by other moderators as well, since currently as things stand I think banning me will be a personal decision on your part that is not in line with the Guidelines that you have published and asked your users to adhere by. Who can I contact to further discuss this?
  - tomhoward 8y ago
    As someone who has overcome chronic, debilitating illnesses using unconventional healing techniques myself, I'm sympathetic to your point of view. Indeed dang hinted that he may also be sympathetic to your point of view. But we're all responsible for phrasing our comments in a way that doesn't trigger flamewars. The guidelines clearly state: "Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say." The same thing can be said in multiple different ways. You should make an effort to phrase your comments in the non-flamewar-triggering way.
- acct1771 8y ago
  I'd say calling his beliefs degenerate may have been a bit far, mate.
  - tomhoward 8y ago
    He didn't say that. (Indeed he said "I [...] don't personally have any objection to your view on this".) He said "it's more important to avoid degenerate discussion here". He means discussions that degenerate into flamewars. For what it's worth, misquoting or misrepresenting someone else's comments is another cause of degenerate discussions.

by aviv 8y ago

dang 8y ago

I don't want to ban you and don't personally have any objection to your view on this. But you've created so many flamewars by posting about it that your account has basically become a troll on the issue. Indeed users were complaining to us the last time this came up. If you keep doing it, we're going to have to ban you. Regardless of how right you are or feel you are, it's more important to avoid degenerate discussion here.

aviv 8y ago
I disagree with my comments being grounds for a ban, at least according to your existing Guidelines. I merely raise the point that fasting should be considered where relevant to the discussion. In each and every health related discussion I joined there is significant evidence that fasting is indeed a viable treatment option. The flamewars you are speaking of are not started by myself, rather by a select few who have opposing beliefs and are using the site features (flagging, downvoting) to express such views. As you mentioned, I've been speaking up about fasting for a long time on HN. I have since received several emails from members here who have taken my comments into consideration and have been successful at resolving various health issues in large part by undertaking a prolonged fast. Banning me plays into the hands of those who would rather this treatment option be silenced and I believe the Flagging feature is being abused by those who are using it anonymously to prevent others from being exposed to it. By banning me you are effectively hindering people's access to a wide variety of health options, and I believe you will be in the wrong by doing so. Therefore I would like to have my comments and activity reviewed by other moderators as well, since currently as things stand I think banning me will be a personal decision on your part that is not in line with the Guidelines that you have published and asked your users to adhere by. Who can I contact to further discuss this?
- tomhoward 8y ago
  As someone who has overcome chronic, debilitating illnesses using unconventional healing techniques myself, I'm sympathetic to your point of view. Indeed dang hinted that he may also be sympathetic to your point of view. But we're all responsible for phrasing our comments in a way that doesn't trigger flamewars. The guidelines clearly state: "Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say." The same thing can be said in multiple different ways. You should make an effort to phrase your comments in the non-flamewar-triggering way.
acct1771 8y ago
I'd say calling his beliefs degenerate may have been a bit far, mate.
- tomhoward 8y ago
  He didn't say that. (Indeed he said "I [...] don't personally have any objection to your view on this".) He said "it's more important to avoid degenerate discussion here". He means discussions that degenerate into flamewars. For what it's worth, misquoting or misrepresenting someone else's comments is another cause of degenerate discussions.