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I feel you're right, which is why I'm surprised by the seemingly negative response to this news, and the overwhelmingly positive response from GitHub+Microsoft.

I feel you're right, which is why I'm surprised by the seemingly negative response to this news, and the overwhelmingly positive response from GitHub+Microsoft. Some of the same conflicts of interest exist in both modern cases, notwithstanding, both have opposite contribution histories. Am I missing something?

throwaway2048 8y ago
I wouldn't call the GitHub+Microsoft acquisition response "overwhelmingly positive".
- icebraining 8y ago
  I agree, plenty of criticism and skepticism here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17227286 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17227286
SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
I got the impression that nobody at all on HN was happy about the GitHub thing, FWIW.
- cosinetau 8y ago
  I'm sorry, I'm in the PNW. I think I just got caught in my own damn bubble.
  - Cyphase 8y ago
    PNW = Pacific Northwest (of the continental United States), for anyone who doesn't know; it's not an initialism I use/see too often myself, and I live in California.
    - jsperx 8y ago
      Thanks. CA here also and had no idea what that referred to.
      - jfk13 8y ago
        I thought CA was the country just to the north of PNW... :)
        OJFord 8y ago
        Oh, not Central America then?
prepend 8y ago
Others pointed out that the Github merger wasn’t all positive, but Microsoft is at least a software company. IBM is a consulting company and their model is really different than RedHat. Competing with AWS and Microsoft is pretty crazy and does not make sense to me. RedHat’s value is in its software, not its cloud delivery. And, frankly, I depend a little more on centos/fedora than I do Github.
- viraptor 8y ago
  They've been competing with cloud providers for while already. Bluemix may not be very popular, but it seems to be growing https://console.bluemix.net/catalog/ https://console.bluemix.net/catalog/
- xorcist 8y ago
  It may be strictly wrong to call them a "cloud" provider, but they've bet big on on-premise cloud-like systems, which carries a lot of potential for future growth. If you want enterpricey Kubernetes, scratching those auditing and authorization itches it carries, Openshift is probably on your short list.
- _emacsomancer_ 8y ago
  > Others pointed out that the Github merger wasn’t all positive, but Microsoft is at least a software company. > IBM is a consulting company and their model is really different than RedHat. Maybe the complementariness of this could be good? (Yes, Microsoft is a software company, but they produce a particular type of software which is why many people weren't thrilled about their acquisition of Github.)
ianai 8y ago
Concentration of power isn’t always socially optimal. It’s probably never optimal.

throwaway2048 8y ago

I wouldn't call the GitHub+Microsoft acquisition response "overwhelmingly positive".

icebraining 8y ago
I agree, plenty of criticism and skepticism here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17227286 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17227286

SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago

I got the impression that nobody at all on HN was happy about the GitHub thing, FWIW.

cosinetau 8y ago
I'm sorry, I'm in the PNW. I think I just got caught in my own damn bubble.
- Cyphase 8y ago
  PNW = Pacific Northwest (of the continental United States), for anyone who doesn't know; it's not an initialism I use/see too often myself, and I live in California.
  - jsperx 8y ago
    Thanks. CA here also and had no idea what that referred to.
    - jfk13 8y ago
      I thought CA was the country just to the north of PNW... :)
      - OJFord 8y ago
        Oh, not Central America then?

prepend 8y ago

Others pointed out that the Github merger wasn’t all positive, but Microsoft is at least a software company. IBM is a consulting company and their model is really different than RedHat. Competing with AWS and Microsoft is pretty crazy and does not make sense to me. RedHat’s value is in its software, not its cloud delivery. And, frankly, I depend a little more on centos/fedora than I do Github.

viraptor 8y ago
They've been competing with cloud providers for while already. Bluemix may not be very popular, but it seems to be growing https://console.bluemix.net/catalog/ https://console.bluemix.net/catalog/
xorcist 8y ago
It may be strictly wrong to call them a "cloud" provider, but they've bet big on on-premise cloud-like systems, which carries a lot of potential for future growth. If you want enterpricey Kubernetes, scratching those auditing and authorization itches it carries, Openshift is probably on your short list.
_emacsomancer_ 8y ago
> Others pointed out that the Github merger wasn’t all positive, but Microsoft is at least a software company. > IBM is a consulting company and their model is really different than RedHat. Maybe the complementariness of this could be good? (Yes, Microsoft is a software company, but they produce a particular type of software which is why many people weren't thrilled about their acquisition of Github.)

ianai 8y ago

Concentration of power isn’t always socially optimal. It’s probably never optimal.