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How can this be a good idea? Meanwhile in the gulf there are still leaking wells. When do we learn?

by spockz 8y ago

ryanmarsh 8y ago
Which ones and what has been the EPA’s response?
- hnmonkey 8y ago
  Here is at least one, and it might be the worst spill in US history. It has been all over the news over the past couple of weeks and was a very easy google away. The EPA along with other organizations like the Coast Guard were lied to by the company that owns the well and also seemingly looked the other way for the most part under the guise that it wasn't really that big of a leak so it's fine to let it continue to fester. Clearly however, they were not doing the envrionmental protection part of their name. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/a-14-year-long-oil-spill-in-the-gulf-of-mexico-verges-on-becoming-one-of-the-worst-in-us-history/2018/10/20/f9a66fd0-9045-11e8-bcd5-9d911c784c38_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/a-14-...
claydavisss 8y ago
Do you own an internal combustion engine? Does your Amazon delivery person? Your fire Dept? Police? We are all complicit
- crispyambulance 8y ago
  Yes, we are complicit. For some that means careful reconsideration of petrochemical usage, with the intent of gradually reducing usage and focusing on alternatives and strategic workarounds for the post peak-oil future. For other's that means "drill-baby-drill" and race to bottom out the price of oil to the point where it's cheaper than water (actually, it already is if you consider bottled drinking water)-- without consideration for the fact that petroleum is a finite resource and there's no "free-refill".
- hnmonkey 8y ago
  Complicit isn't really the right word at all. For many Americans (probably most) that have a job, they have to get to their job to make money to continue to exist and support themselves and their families. Because of the lack of public transportation (also not their fault) they more than likely need a car. In order to get things they need for their household they have to go shop for them (using a car) or ordering them (having them delivered). Also, I'm not sure how you think the average person influences the energy policies for the fire department, police, Amazon, or car manufacturers. For most people they have no say in any of this and use the things they need to to continue to get by. We are not all complicit, especially considering complicit is defined as illegal or wrongdoing. Your comment seems to imply the average person has the same power, capabilities, lobbying ability, voice, free time on their hands, and money that someone in the government/politics/large lobbying firm/large corporation would have to dedicate to these things. I'm pretty sure for most people that's not the case at all.

How can this be a good idea? Meanwhile in the gulf there are still leaking wells. When do we learn?

by spockz 8y ago

How can this be a good idea? Meanwhile in the gulf there are still leaking wells. When do we learn?

ryanmarsh 8y ago

Which ones and what has been the EPA’s response?

hnmonkey 8y ago
Here is at least one, and it might be the worst spill in US history. It has been all over the news over the past couple of weeks and was a very easy google away. The EPA along with other organizations like the Coast Guard were lied to by the company that owns the well and also seemingly looked the other way for the most part under the guise that it wasn't really that big of a leak so it's fine to let it continue to fester. Clearly however, they were not doing the envrionmental protection part of their name. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/a-14-year-long-oil-spill-in-the-gulf-of-mexico-verges-on-becoming-one-of-the-worst-in-us-history/2018/10/20/f9a66fd0-9045-11e8-bcd5-9d911c784c38_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/a-14-...

claydavisss 8y ago

Do you own an internal combustion engine? Does your Amazon delivery person? Your fire Dept? Police? We are all complicit

crispyambulance 8y ago
Yes, we are complicit. For some that means careful reconsideration of petrochemical usage, with the intent of gradually reducing usage and focusing on alternatives and strategic workarounds for the post peak-oil future. For other's that means "drill-baby-drill" and race to bottom out the price of oil to the point where it's cheaper than water (actually, it already is if you consider bottled drinking water)-- without consideration for the fact that petroleum is a finite resource and there's no "free-refill".
hnmonkey 8y ago
Complicit isn't really the right word at all. For many Americans (probably most) that have a job, they have to get to their job to make money to continue to exist and support themselves and their families. Because of the lack of public transportation (also not their fault) they more than likely need a car. In order to get things they need for their household they have to go shop for them (using a car) or ordering them (having them delivered). Also, I'm not sure how you think the average person influences the energy policies for the fire department, police, Amazon, or car manufacturers. For most people they have no say in any of this and use the things they need to to continue to get by. We are not all complicit, especially considering complicit is defined as illegal or wrongdoing. Your comment seems to imply the average person has the same power, capabilities, lobbying ability, voice, free time on their hands, and money that someone in the government/politics/large lobbying firm/large corporation would have to dedicate to these things. I'm pretty sure for most people that's not the case at all.