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Trump Administration Approves a Plan to Drill for Oil in the Arctic
- thefounder 8y agoNice! The penguins got too cozy for too long!
- Apocryphon 8y agoPolar bears.
- berbec 8y agoThey can swim. What's the big deal about a little ice melting? It'll be good for their cardiovascular health.
- ap3 8y agoThere are no penguins in the northern hemisphere TIL
- spockz 8y agoHow can this be a good idea? Meanwhile in the gulf there are still leaking wells. When do we learn?
- ryanmarsh 8y agoWhich ones and what has been the EPA’s response?
- hnmonkey 8y agoHere is at least one, and it might be the worst spill in US history. It has been all over the news over the past couple of weeks and was a very easy google away. The EPA along with other organizations like the Coast Guard were lied to by the company that owns the well and also seemingly looked the other way for the most part under the guise that it wasn't really that big of a leak so it's fine to let it continue to fester. Clearly however, they were not doing the envrionmental protection part of their name. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/a-14-year-long-oil-spill-in-the-gulf-of-mexico-verges-on-becoming-one-of-the-worst-in-us-history/2018/10/20/f9a66fd0-9045-11e8-bcd5-9d911c784c38_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/a-14-...
- claydavisss 8y agoDo you own an internal combustion engine? Does your Amazon delivery person? Your fire Dept? Police? We are all complicit
- crispyambulance 8y agoYes, we are complicit. For some that means careful reconsideration of petrochemical usage, with the intent of gradually reducing usage and focusing on alternatives and strategic workarounds for the post peak-oil future. For other's that means "drill-baby-drill" and race to bottom out the price of oil to the point where it's cheaper than water (actually, it already is if you consider bottled drinking water)-- without consideration for the fact that petroleum is a finite resource and there's no "free-refill".
- hnmonkey 8y agoComplicit isn't really the right word at all. For many Americans (probably most) that have a job, they have to get to their job to make money to continue to exist and support themselves and their families. Because of the lack of public transportation (also not their fault) they more than likely need a car. In order to get things they need for their household they have to go shop for them (using a car) or ordering them (having them delivered). Also, I'm not sure how you think the average person influences the energy policies for the fire department, police, Amazon, or car manufacturers. For most people they have no say in any of this and use the things they need to to continue to get by. We are not all complicit, especially considering complicit is defined as illegal or wrongdoing. Your comment seems to imply the average person has the same power, capabilities, lobbying ability, voice, free time on their hands, and money that someone in the government/politics/large lobbying firm/large corporation would have to dedicate to these things. I'm pretty sure for most people that's not the case at all.
- hereiskkb 8y agoIts like they are making a statement: you think the planet is screwed? You ain't seen nothing yet!
- jaytaylor 8y agoWho owns / controls the Arctic? Is it within American jurisdiction?
- mikestew 8y agoSix miles off the Alaskan coast, as per TFA, or the whole of the Arctic?
- kh_hk 8y ago> Who owns / controls the Arctic? All arctic coastal states: Russia, Norway, Iceland, Greenland, Canada and the US. > Is it within American jurisdiction? Since this is 6 miles off the Alaskan coast, that's included within the US continental shelf, which goes up to 200 nautical miles.
- mikestew 8y ago“Responsibly developing our resources, in Alaska especially, will allow us to use our energy diplomatically to aid our allies and check our adversaries,” he said in a statement. “That makes America stronger and more influential around the globe.” We feel that when we swing our dick around, it’s not big enough. This will allow to have a bigger dick to swing around. I’m at a loss for a less cynical translation.
- marcoperaza 8y agoRussia regularly extorts European countries by threatening to cut off gas or raise prices. A big part of US foreign policy is guaranteeing energy security to our allies. The US is already nearly energy independent, due in part to the shale gas (“fracking”) boom. Increasing domestic production, along with the new policy of allowing exports to our allies, will do a lot to lessen Russia’s power. So yes, it’s about carrying an even bigger stick. But it’s our stick or Russia’s stick. Our allies would much rather depend on America than Russia.
- Gibbon1 8y agoEvery investment in oil and gas exploration is a tragic waste of resources tho since the world needs to stop using fossil fuels for generating electricity, transportation, and heat. With that geopolitical games centered around control of oil and gas supplies is utterly pointless.
- marcoperaza 8y agoIf we don’t do it, our competitors will. Do you want to live in a world where the Chinese and Russian governments have more power over your life than they do now?
- ap3 8y agoHow will the Chinese drill in Alaskan waters?
- vezycash 8y agoI thought international law prohibits any country from asserting ownership over the arctic?
- thefounder 8y agoThe big boys are always above the law. Illegal wars, illegal anexations, "illegal" murders, price fixing(opec)...you name it. For a law to have any value it has be enforceable. Who will punish US? The EU states can barely agree to take action against Russia.
- maxerickson 8y agoThat's the Antarctic. The land parts of the Arctic are all divvied up.
- narinek 8y agoWhat's the danger here? A spill/leakage, or is there anything else?
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- canhascodez 8y agoThis seems a bit too mainstream-political for Hacker News, and the commentary thus far is pretty low-SNR.
- narinek 8y agoThat's true... This is not good enough for Hacker News. https://i.imgur.com/067nQps.png https://i.imgur.com/067nQps.png