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I'm from India and every ejection since 1950s has been called rigged by the Opposition. The party which is in power now, has written a book on EVM tampering an
by thewhitetulip 8y ago
I'm from India and every ejection since 1950s has been called rigged by the Opposition. The party which is in power now, has written a book on EVM tampering and the party which was in power for most of the time have rubbished EvM tampering.
Now that roles have reversed, so have their claims.
Coming to the point, isn't US using paperballots? All the papers in my nation say US holds elections via paperballots and not EVMs.
And why the heck do EVMs exist? Who verifies if they are fine or not? We know very well abouhow elections are rigged in third world dictatorships.
There needs to be a standard.
- jakelazaroff 8y ago> Coming to the point, isn't US using paperballots? Not everywhere, no: https://ballotpedia.org/Voting_methods_and_equipment_by_state https://ballotpedia.org/Voting_methods_and_equipment_by_stat...
- monocasa 8y ago> Coming to the point, isn't US using paperballots? All the papers in my nation say US holds elections via paperballots and not EVMs. It's different on a per state/municipality basis. Some are paper, some are EVM. We're trending towards EVM despite warnings from computer security researchers.
- thewhitetulip 8y agoEVMs with a verifiable paper trail should help. We have VVPats in India where we get receipts after voting. Plus Election Commission does/can do a random audit on constituencies.
- mikeash 8y agoI don’t think I’ve seen a paper ballot since I voted absentee in 2004. Why do electronic machines exist? The charitable interpretation is that they were chosen in the aftermath of the disastrous 2000 election because they remove ambiguity and error. The less charitable interpretation is that they’re used because they’re easier to screw with. Who verifies them? Mostly the companies who make them.
- thewhitetulip 8y agoWow, and here I was, reading Indian news articles whoch said "When nations like US, UK are holding elections via ballot papers then why are we using EVMs"
- dragonwriter 8y ago> I don’t think I’ve seen a paper ballot since I voted absentee in 2004. I've voted in person consistently, and never seen anything else. Different jurisdictions in the US make different choices.
- madengr 8y agoMy county has switched to hybrids. It’s electronically tallied with a paper card printed for verification and archiving. This is good, considering the gubernatorial primary was a 0.06% spread.
- everdev 8y agoCalling the opposition "fake" is an old political practice used as both valid criticism and deception. Unfortunately, the claim sounds the same even if the facts are not. Unfortunately, I think politicians know that most people don't have the time or resources to fact check and claims don't need to be supported by much evidence to be believed.
- thewhitetulip 8y agoCalling everything fake has become a fashion. I started watching Last Week Tonight recently and it is scary, the lengths to which politicians lie about fake news!
- mtgx 8y agoThese back and forth accusations could stop if they actually implemented automatic (random) audits, so that all elections would be verified, without anyone first having to "call" an election stolen first, before the audit would have to happen.
- thewhitetulip 8y agoTrue. But then, there is a concept called VVPATs. Verified paprt trail on which we get a receipt of whom we voted for