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> Of the 7% of men who say they are often the only man in the room at work, the majority say they feel included and “fortunate to be there.” The above is just

> Of the 7% of men who say they are often the only man in the room at work, the majority say they feel included and “fortunate to be there.” The above is just stated as obvious, while with reversed genders the problem deserves an article, public discussion, and various forms of "positive" discrimination. Here lies the core of the problem. Man without a woman - a loser. Man among the women - fortunate.

n4r9 8y ago
I don't follow your reasoning. Women feel very uncomfortable when they are the only female employee, but the "core" of the problem is social expectations on men?
jg04svr 8y ago
The core of the problem is that there are workplace gender imbalances. It's not clear what you meant by "stated as obvious"--it's stated as the result of a survey, like all the other results--but one reason it's not the focus of the article is that women were almost 200% more likely than men to be in that position in the first place. "With genders reversed," the result is also reversed. Articles are being written about it (like the one you just read). Public discussion is occurring about it (like the one we're having). You seem to be more upset by the survey's findings not aligning with your assumptions than by any perceived flaw with its methods.
- expertentipp 8y ago
  > women were almost 200% more likely than men to be in that position The article doesn't seem to talk about any particular industry. There exist heavily feminized industries, which ones depends on the country, e.g. many outsourcing and nearshoring centers in post-Communist countries are, government's and local authorities' office jobs, certain healthcare related jobs. > You seem to be more upset by the survey's findings not aligning with your assumptions than by any perceived flaw with its methods. This is just offensive. I hope I will never be forced to discuss with you.

n4r9 8y ago

I don't follow your reasoning. Women feel very uncomfortable when they are the only female employee, but the "core" of the problem is social expectations on men?

jg04svr 8y ago

The core of the problem is that there are workplace gender imbalances. It's not clear what you meant by "stated as obvious"--it's stated as the result of a survey, like all the other results--but one reason it's not the focus of the article is that women were almost 200% more likely than men to be in that position in the first place. "With genders reversed," the result is also reversed. Articles are being written about it (like the one you just read). Public discussion is occurring about it (like the one we're having). You seem to be more upset by the survey's findings not aligning with your assumptions than by any perceived flaw with its methods.

expertentipp 8y ago
> women were almost 200% more likely than men to be in that position The article doesn't seem to talk about any particular industry. There exist heavily feminized industries, which ones depends on the country, e.g. many outsourcing and nearshoring centers in post-Communist countries are, government's and local authorities' office jobs, certain healthcare related jobs. > You seem to be more upset by the survey's findings not aligning with your assumptions than by any perceived flaw with its methods. This is just offensive. I hope I will never be forced to discuss with you.