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There seem to be a lot of stories with a negative view of China on HN.

by EngineerBetter 8y ago

teknologist 8y ago
This is news. Not sure why you think this post constitutes pushing a negative view of China.
- sjburt 8y ago
  Calling it a failure/setback is pretty harsh and misleading. Getting off the pad at all is a major success for the first launch of a new launch vehicle.
  - orbital-decay 8y ago
    Huh? The mission was a failure. This is the industry terminology, nothing misleading about that.
- scarcely 8y ago
  Come on, it gets voted to the top because it allows "hackers" to gloat about it under the name of "intellectual curiosity". I bet it brought a smile to your face, didn't it :)
  - teknologist 8y ago
    I don't know what you're talking about but you appear to be expressing insecurity of some kind.
MarkMc 8y ago
I don't see this as negative - I was quite impressed that China has reached the stage where a private company can almost launch a rocket into space.
crispyporkbites 8y ago
I can see why the title specifically says Chinese, but really it feels like it shouldn't need to mention the country of origin. It's equivalent to referring to SpaceX's launches as "private American attempts". This isn't (or at least should not be) China vs USA, these are two private companies competing. It does feel like there's a narrative to make it feel like the space race where you had two nation states competing, but it's really not like that at all. The American people should feel little extra connection to SpaceX than they do to Landscape, after all, the people of America will not benefit SpaceX successes in the same way they would if NASA were to succeed. Personally I don't appreciate nationalism and I think there's a huge element to this in the way many of us think about the world, which is reflected in our reporting of events.
- espadrine 8y ago
  You are talking about a country that expects most of their students to recite the Pledge of Allegiance daily. Of course, you are right. But nationalism is way ingrained. US multinational PR may be all about globalization and inclusiveness, but employees will always chant “USA”. On the flip side, here is how SCMP introduced SpaceX: > Tuesday's successful launch into orbit of private company SpaceX's unmanned Dragon capsule may have marked 'a new era in space exploration' https://www.scmp.com/article/1001821/talking-points https://www.scmp.com/article/1001821/talking-points
  - teknologist 8y ago
    Being European, I assume most countries don't make their children pledge allegiance at all, because the idea seems absurd to most of us. A friend of mine was in a Chinese high school for a year. Every Monday morning the whole school had to line up by class in formation and watch the flag being raised with their fists raised in a sort of salute. Then they would have to recite this kind of pledge/chant thing before listening to the school's party secretary talk about communism for 15 minutes. I really don't get what effect it tries to achieve, or how it could ever manage to do anything other than make kids bored/misbehave.
- scarcely 8y ago

There seem to be a lot of stories with a negative view of China on HN.

teknologist 8y ago

This is news. Not sure why you think this post constitutes pushing a negative view of China.

sjburt 8y ago
Calling it a failure/setback is pretty harsh and misleading. Getting off the pad at all is a major success for the first launch of a new launch vehicle.
- orbital-decay 8y ago
  Huh? The mission was a failure. This is the industry terminology, nothing misleading about that.
scarcely 8y ago
Come on, it gets voted to the top because it allows "hackers" to gloat about it under the name of "intellectual curiosity". I bet it brought a smile to your face, didn't it :)
- teknologist 8y ago
  I don't know what you're talking about but you appear to be expressing insecurity of some kind.

MarkMc 8y ago

I don't see this as negative - I was quite impressed that China has reached the stage where a private company can almost launch a rocket into space.

crispyporkbites 8y ago

I can see why the title specifically says Chinese, but really it feels like it shouldn't need to mention the country of origin. It's equivalent to referring to SpaceX's launches as "private American attempts". This isn't (or at least should not be) China vs USA, these are two private companies competing. It does feel like there's a narrative to make it feel like the space race where you had two nation states competing, but it's really not like that at all. The American people should feel little extra connection to SpaceX than they do to Landscape, after all, the people of America will not benefit SpaceX successes in the same way they would if NASA were to succeed. Personally I don't appreciate nationalism and I think there's a huge element to this in the way many of us think about the world, which is reflected in our reporting of events.

espadrine 8y ago
You are talking about a country that expects most of their students to recite the Pledge of Allegiance daily. Of course, you are right. But nationalism is way ingrained. US multinational PR may be all about globalization and inclusiveness, but employees will always chant “USA”. On the flip side, here is how SCMP introduced SpaceX: > Tuesday's successful launch into orbit of private company SpaceX's unmanned Dragon capsule may have marked 'a new era in space exploration' https://www.scmp.com/article/1001821/talking-points https://www.scmp.com/article/1001821/talking-points
- teknologist 8y ago
  Being European, I assume most countries don't make their children pledge allegiance at all, because the idea seems absurd to most of us. A friend of mine was in a Chinese high school for a year. Every Monday morning the whole school had to line up by class in formation and watch the flag being raised with their fists raised in a sort of salute. Then they would have to recite this kind of pledge/chant thing before listening to the school's party secretary talk about communism for 15 minutes. I really don't get what effect it tries to achieve, or how it could ever manage to do anything other than make kids bored/misbehave.
scarcely 8y ago