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I mentioned this in a comment over a year ago in a story about paint.net. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14338174 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14

I mentioned this in a comment over a year ago in a story about paint.net. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14338174 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14338174 > The Bing search engine is about as bad. A close friend used IE to get Google Chrome. They clicked the first result and luckily I was able to stop them before starting the install on some crapware. So I asked them to be careful to ensure the download site is correct and left them to it. I came back to find they had downloaded some other crapware. I checked the search results. The ENTIRE first one and a half page of results were advertisements for versions of crapware which may or may not have been Chromium or Chrome lookalikes with lots of malware.

baud147258 8y ago
I've just checked on bing with IE and the first results are: - ad by Google for Google Chrome - ad by Mozilla for Firefox - 2 result on Google's site - one download site (didn't check if it's crapware) - two wikipedia links - the same ads at the tops
- kup0 8y ago
  In one case, I saw where it looked like an ad by Google for Google Chrome- but once clicked, it actually led elsewhere (to a very well-constructed fake Google page)- even though on the result page the URL looked legitimate
amarant 8y ago
Makes me wonder how Microsoft ranks search results. Surely if they were counting links to a page from other pages (like Google does), Google would've come out on top? Or does noone link to Google anymore since people tend to find their way there anyway?
- nl 8y ago
  Ads aren’t ranked like pages.
  - mcintyre1994 8y ago
    Surely there isn't a page and a half of adverts before any legitimate page?
AnonymousPlanet 8y ago
This is exacltly what you would get if you'd deliberately moved all links to the legitimate site way down. Maybe because it's your competition?
- hayksaakian 8y ago
  Or if Bing was more susceptible to spam and abuse than Google
  - kakarot 8y ago
    Well after Bing got busted for scraping Google's results, they had to scramble to implement their own terrible search algorithm.
DelightOne 8y ago
It‘s kinda sad that there‘s currently no more intuitive, built-in, simple and elegant better way to do that. (I know of thousands (if not infinitely) more complex ones so please don‘t start on them) It must be as simple as „google that and press install“. Everything requiring an install has a huge negative attached, but the worst is if they google for the tool you use to then type in ... . Maybe make the tool the start page and train them to press the startpage-button first every time you tell them to „google sth“. You‘ll miss a business model though incase you don‘t want to show links to crapware like certain others. Or maybe just make DuckDuckGo the startpage?

baud147258 8y ago

I've just checked on bing with IE and the first results are: - ad by Google for Google Chrome - ad by Mozilla for Firefox - 2 result on Google's site - one download site (didn't check if it's crapware) - two wikipedia links - the same ads at the tops

kup0 8y ago
In one case, I saw where it looked like an ad by Google for Google Chrome- but once clicked, it actually led elsewhere (to a very well-constructed fake Google page)- even though on the result page the URL looked legitimate

amarant 8y ago

Makes me wonder how Microsoft ranks search results. Surely if they were counting links to a page from other pages (like Google does), Google would've come out on top? Or does noone link to Google anymore since people tend to find their way there anyway?

nl 8y ago
Ads aren’t ranked like pages.
- mcintyre1994 8y ago
  Surely there isn't a page and a half of adverts before any legitimate page?

AnonymousPlanet 8y ago

This is exacltly what you would get if you'd deliberately moved all links to the legitimate site way down. Maybe because it's your competition?

hayksaakian 8y ago
Or if Bing was more susceptible to spam and abuse than Google
- kakarot 8y ago
  Well after Bing got busted for scraping Google's results, they had to scramble to implement their own terrible search algorithm.

DelightOne 8y ago

It‘s kinda sad that there‘s currently no more intuitive, built-in, simple and elegant better way to do that. (I know of thousands (if not infinitely) more complex ones so please don‘t start on them) It must be as simple as „google that and press install“. Everything requiring an install has a huge negative attached, but the worst is if they google for the tool you use to then type in ... . Maybe make the tool the start page and train them to press the startpage-button first every time you tell them to „google sth“. You‘ll miss a business model though incase you don‘t want to show links to crapware like certain others. Or maybe just make DuckDuckGo the startpage?