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> Wouldn't this proposal cause nations that adopt it to shift their weekdays from nations (and religions) that don't, at the rate of one a year? Yes, and this

> Wouldn't this proposal cause nations that adopt it to shift their weekdays from nations (and religions) that don't, at the rate of one a year? Yes, and this is the primary problem with the 13mo/yr proposal, even more intractable than the constant month/day conversions between countries that would result. The "1 day of rest per week" (which is inseparable from the 7-day cycle) is very important to a large segment of the world's population, especially Muslims, Jews, and Christians.

philistine 8y ago
Bingo! That's the whole crux of the problem there. You can't get rid of the 7-day cycle for religious reasons. So when you try to create a universal calendar that satisfies all the religious constraints, you end up with ... something so close to what we already have that it's not worth the hassle.
- TimTheTinker 8y ago
  Well, just subtract the week-month alignment and "Year Day" and you're good. I don't see any problem with adding a 13th month with 29 days instead of 28 -- where religions and countries want specific monthly calendars, they already have their own maintained forks. Although the below nursery rhyme would be deprecated. That might be enough to kill it :) 30 days hath September April, June, and November All the rest have 31 But February alone Which hath 28 days square, and 29 in each leap year That or the fact that a lot of people are superstitious about the number 13.
  - c3534l 8y ago
    That nursery rhyme is deprecated for the simple fact that it doesn't actually rhyme.
    - TimTheTinker 8y ago
      Where doesn’t it? Note “thirty-one” and “alone” are an eye rhyme. Should have spelled it out. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_rhyme https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_rhyme Also I’m not sure if I should have put the last “and” at the beginning of the last line.
      - c3534l 8y ago
        First, a nursery rhyme is for kids so if it only "rhymes" on paper, then it's going to be missed by the audience (and it's only a rhyme in a metaphorical sense anyway). Besides that, square and year don't rhyme either when spoken or written. Further, while November and September may technically rhyme, they don't sound very rhymey to me. Maybe just because the -ber ending is so common in months and the part of the words that differ are three syllables back.

philistine 8y ago

Bingo! That's the whole crux of the problem there. You can't get rid of the 7-day cycle for religious reasons. So when you try to create a universal calendar that satisfies all the religious constraints, you end up with ... something so close to what we already have that it's not worth the hassle.

TimTheTinker 8y ago
Well, just subtract the week-month alignment and "Year Day" and you're good. I don't see any problem with adding a 13th month with 29 days instead of 28 -- where religions and countries want specific monthly calendars, they already have their own maintained forks. Although the below nursery rhyme would be deprecated. That might be enough to kill it :) 30 days hath September April, June, and November All the rest have 31 But February alone Which hath 28 days square, and 29 in each leap year That or the fact that a lot of people are superstitious about the number 13.
- c3534l 8y ago
  That nursery rhyme is deprecated for the simple fact that it doesn't actually rhyme.
  - TimTheTinker 8y ago
    Where doesn’t it? Note “thirty-one” and “alone” are an eye rhyme. Should have spelled it out. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_rhyme https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_rhyme Also I’m not sure if I should have put the last “and” at the beginning of the last line.
    - c3534l 8y ago
      First, a nursery rhyme is for kids so if it only "rhymes" on paper, then it's going to be missed by the audience (and it's only a rhyme in a metaphorical sense anyway). Besides that, square and year don't rhyme either when spoken or written. Further, while November and September may technically rhyme, they don't sound very rhymey to me. Maybe just because the -ber ending is so common in months and the part of the words that differ are three syllables back.