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didn't click the link, but this has been possible since .Net 2.0. back when EasyHook was still in alpha I was using it to inject the entire CLR into unmanaged

didn't click the link, but this has been possible since .Net 2.0. back when EasyHook was still in alpha I was using it to inject the entire CLR into unmanaged processes. My ridiculous self was writing intel ASM in C# byte arrays, changing permissions on memory pages to make them executable, pausing the process, then injecting my code. After that I discovered C and my life became much simpler.

xmichael999 8y ago
Since you seem so well versed on the topic, wouldn't you find it at least "slightly" useful to click the link?
mandeepj 8y ago
> After that I discovered C I hope I’m reading it right - you knew intel asm but not C? I’m little surprised. Sorry
- evincarofautumn 8y ago
  It’s not so unusual. I learned assembly before I learned C, mostly because I didn’t have a C compiler—or even know that I needed one! My family’s Windows 95 computer had QBASIC preinstalled (which amazingly I learned mostly by browsing the interactive help) and I discovered that in order to speed up my graphics routines, I had to write them in assembly in MASM (and DEBUG), also preinstalled. The fact that they were just there already, without requiring any installation or configuration, was enormously helpful as a beginner. At ~10 years old, I didn’t have any frame of reference for how difficult this tack was compared to other languages, so I just accepted it as “this is what programming is like”. I only picked up C several years later as I got into programming languages and studied as many different languages as I could. Now I work in programming language technology as both a career and a hobby. :)
- rootw0rm 8y ago
  yup. taught myself ASM through countless hours debugging/tracing/reversing code (and also reading Intel's docs). i learned how to reverse before i really got interested in programming. i had a tiny bit of C++/Pascal experience from high school. C# came out and I saw an easy way to bust out quick windows apps with a decent GUI. made a hacking/macroing framework for Ultima Online in C#, really hideous, horrible, awful code....but I came up with some decent patches for the many different UO clients.

xmichael999 8y ago

Since you seem so well versed on the topic, wouldn't you find it at least "slightly" useful to click the link?

mandeepj 8y ago

> After that I discovered C I hope I’m reading it right - you knew intel asm but not C? I’m little surprised. Sorry

evincarofautumn 8y ago
It’s not so unusual. I learned assembly before I learned C, mostly because I didn’t have a C compiler—or even know that I needed one! My family’s Windows 95 computer had QBASIC preinstalled (which amazingly I learned mostly by browsing the interactive help) and I discovered that in order to speed up my graphics routines, I had to write them in assembly in MASM (and DEBUG), also preinstalled. The fact that they were just there already, without requiring any installation or configuration, was enormously helpful as a beginner. At ~10 years old, I didn’t have any frame of reference for how difficult this tack was compared to other languages, so I just accepted it as “this is what programming is like”. I only picked up C several years later as I got into programming languages and studied as many different languages as I could. Now I work in programming language technology as both a career and a hobby. :)
rootw0rm 8y ago
yup. taught myself ASM through countless hours debugging/tracing/reversing code (and also reading Intel's docs). i learned how to reverse before i really got interested in programming. i had a tiny bit of C++/Pascal experience from high school. C# came out and I saw an easy way to bust out quick windows apps with a decent GUI. made a hacking/macroing framework for Ultima Online in C#, really hideous, horrible, awful code....but I came up with some decent patches for the many different UO clients.