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To clarify, the European Commission had a public consultation on DST[1]. The response was strongly in favour of ending the clock changes, and furthermore favour

To clarify, the European Commission had a public consultation on DST[1]. The response was strongly in favour of ending the clock changes, and furthermore favoured permanent DST. The EC has called on member states to come up with an appropriate way of accommodating the public’s preference, telling them to coordinate so that time differences across borders are kept to a sensible minimum. No decision has been made yet to either abolish DST, or move the clock forward one hour permanently, and it might not happen at all. The member states are supposed to reply before next summer, so that the switch to DST next spring could be the last time changing clocks in Europe. [1]http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-18-5302_en.htm http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-18-5302_en.htm

alexdumitru 8y ago
I had the feeling more states agreed already. In Romania we'll switch to winter time tomorrow and stick to it.
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andrepd 8y ago
>To clarify, the European Commission had a public consultation on DST A public consultation, conducted online, to which 4 million people (less that 1% of the population of Europe) answered. 3 million of those were from Germany.
- gsich 8y ago
  And?
- ithkuil 8y ago
  I'm living in the EU. I go online and read various news items every day. I'm baffled about the fact I somehow managed to miss that there was an official poll / call for direct citizen feedback on such a topic I personally care about. I might have bit a bit distracted ... or the whole poll might not have been conducted particularly well. Overrepresentation of a particular country might be a tell tale sign of local media coverage that was effectively done only in one country.
  - icebraining 8y ago
    The EU Commission launches hundreds of Consultations, which the vast majority never hear about: https://ec.europa.eu/info/consultations_en https://ec.europa.eu/info/consultations_en I'm not sure if they actually pretend these are representative of the general public opinion.
  - ddebernardy 8y ago
    It was on the HN front page for a few hours when it launched.
- watwut 8y ago
  Nobody except Germans knew about a poll. Seriously, why?
  - ashildr 8y ago
    Because DST is used as THE standard Anti-Brussels rhetorical Point it was all over the news for weeks in Germany.
    - watwut 8y ago
      Thank you. It also implies that DST is politiced in Germany the way I did not expected, it is interesting.
johnchristopher 8y ago
It looked like it was about to happen now or in 6 months (last switch) but Austria has asked for a delay to consider how it should implement it and Belgium and the Netherlands are following with that. So basically I have now lost all hope that we are ever going to drop the switch in this century. So much for public consultation and Europe being an oppressive administration force (some say it was made on purpose to highlight individual states unwillingness to cooperate).

alexdumitru 8y ago

I had the feeling more states agreed already. In Romania we'll switch to winter time tomorrow and stick to it.

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andrepd 8y ago

>To clarify, the European Commission had a public consultation on DST A public consultation, conducted online, to which 4 million people (less that 1% of the population of Europe) answered. 3 million of those were from Germany.

gsich 8y ago
And?
ithkuil 8y ago
I'm living in the EU. I go online and read various news items every day. I'm baffled about the fact I somehow managed to miss that there was an official poll / call for direct citizen feedback on such a topic I personally care about. I might have bit a bit distracted ... or the whole poll might not have been conducted particularly well. Overrepresentation of a particular country might be a tell tale sign of local media coverage that was effectively done only in one country.
- icebraining 8y ago
  The EU Commission launches hundreds of Consultations, which the vast majority never hear about: https://ec.europa.eu/info/consultations_en https://ec.europa.eu/info/consultations_en I'm not sure if they actually pretend these are representative of the general public opinion.
- ddebernardy 8y ago
  It was on the HN front page for a few hours when it launched.
watwut 8y ago
Nobody except Germans knew about a poll. Seriously, why?
- ashildr 8y ago
  Because DST is used as THE standard Anti-Brussels rhetorical Point it was all over the news for weeks in Germany.
  - watwut 8y ago
    Thank you. It also implies that DST is politiced in Germany the way I did not expected, it is interesting.

johnchristopher 8y ago

It looked like it was about to happen now or in 6 months (last switch) but Austria has asked for a delay to consider how it should implement it and Belgium and the Netherlands are following with that. So basically I have now lost all hope that we are ever going to drop the switch in this century. So much for public consultation and Europe being an oppressive administration force (some say it was made on purpose to highlight individual states unwillingness to cooperate).