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I'm glad they decided to keep summer time. I live in fear that we'll decide to abolish DST but keep the darker evenings all year round.
by neonate 8y ago
I'm glad they decided to keep summer time. I live in fear that we'll decide to abolish DST but keep the darker evenings all year round.
- jstanley 8y agoYour timezone does not dictate how dark your evenings are. The days have exactly the same amount of daylight regardless of what numbers you choose to label the hours with.
- function_seven 8y agoYours might not, but mine does. Evenings for me are from ~5pm to bedtime. Unfortunately they're determined by the clock, not the sun.
- eloisant 8y agoThe point is saying summer time is better than winter time regardless you where you live is meaningless. Depending where you live, the offset with the sun is different. In France for example I'd rather we stick with winter time all year round, because I don't care if it's dark at 6pm on winter but doing your morning commute during the night is highly depressing.
- improbable22 8y agoOne point about abandoning DST is that it does re-open these questions. It seems a bit crazy that Madrid and Warsaw are on the same time zone, and perhaps they will get around to fixing this while they're fiddling.
- salvar 8y ago> The point is saying summer time is better than winter time regardless you where you live is meaningless True, but who said this? The grandparent only said that they were happy about the decision in their location. No one stated that summer time is better than winter time regardless of where you live.
- ddebernardy 8y agoFYI, I found that sunlight appearing at ~4am and disappearing long before dinner, like it does during the winter in places like the riviera Maya or Hungary, is even less fun. I'd pick a late sunrise like in Western France or Spain over an early sunset in a heartbeat.
- neonate 8y agoYou're talking about the diurnal cycle, but what we call evenings are defined by social convention and certainly do get darker after the November time shift.
- danharaj 8y agoThe hours I spend at work, on the other hand...
- InclinedPlane 8y agoThe easiest way to shift the schedule of everyone in an area is just to shift the time.
- jstanley 8y agoBut you don't need to shift everyone else's schedule, only your own. The easiest way to shift your own schedule is just to shift it.
- watwut 8y agoYeah, I will just shift my kids classes in school and clubs unilaterally an hour down. Or opening hours in shop I want to go to. And move meeting and buss needed to go to places and what not. And shift or service worker will just come an hour later, no big deal.
- alex__c 8y agoIf shops and schools are sane, they will adjust the schedule according to daylight. No point keeping a shop open at 7am if there's no shoppers, because they're all sound asleep.
- salvar 8y agoWorks great unless you need to live in a society with other people and other schedules.
- yen223 8y agoI propose we solve the obesity crisis by shifting all weights by 10kg down.
- iav 8y agoQuite a few people work relative to market trading hours and customary times to hold earnings calls and roadshows. Sales people work around their store business hours. Schools have fixed schedules. Hours sadly dictate schedules for most people
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- thaumasiotes 8y agoTangent: what's the purpose of closing the financial markets overnight? Why not just have them open all the time?
- andai 8y agoIt sure makes for more dramatic price graphs.
- conanbatt 8y agoSurely thats a regulation thing, not an actual desire by the market.
- thaumasiotes 8y agoThat just shifts the question around. Why, as king, would you want to make sure that there's a period every day when no one is supposed to trade financial instruments?
- conanbatt 8y agoBecause the king doesn't want to take the responsiblity of overlooking the transactions everyday: just when he feels like it.
- thaumasiotes 8y agoHow does the one relate to the other?
- salvar 8y agoThe timezone does dictate what part of the day we generally call "evening" though.
- alexdumitru 8y agoMost of Europe will move to winter time tomorrow and also abolish DST and I have the same feelings about it as you. I prefer darker mornings than evenings, as I've never been an early riser.
- notanote 8y agoTo clarify, the European Commission had a public consultation on DST[1]. The response was strongly in favour of ending the clock changes, and furthermore favoured permanent DST. The EC has called on member states to come up with an appropriate way of accommodating the public’s preference, telling them to coordinate so that time differences across borders are kept to a sensible minimum. No decision has been made yet to either abolish DST, or move the clock forward one hour permanently, and it might not happen at all. The member states are supposed to reply before next summer, so that the switch to DST next spring could be the last time changing clocks in Europe. [1]http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-18-5302_en.htm http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-18-5302_en.htm
- alexdumitru 8y agoI had the feeling more states agreed already. In Romania we'll switch to winter time tomorrow and stick to it.
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- andrepd 8y ago>To clarify, the European Commission had a public consultation on DST A public consultation, conducted online, to which 4 million people (less that 1% of the population of Europe) answered. 3 million of those were from Germany.
- gsich 8y agoAnd?
- fyfy18 8y agoFor your location that may be an issue, but in other parts of Europe keeping summer time all year around will mean the sun doesn't rise until nearly 10am. The real issue here is such a large location is in the same timezone. The sun rises over 1 1/2 hours earlier in the East of Poland compared to the West of Spain, even though they are in the same timezone.
- labster 8y agoPeople who want the solar day to start at 1AM must love languages like SQL that start at index 1. But hey, at least it's consistent with year 1.
- Markoff 8y agothat's exactly what's already proposing Slovak ministry of labor meaning you will have sunrise in summer at 3:30 AM, despite out of Slovak participants in survey 53% voted for permanent DST and in whole EU survey it was even more favourable, let's hope for EU wide agreement on permanent DST, otherwise i will be rather switching time twice a year, despite voting against it in survey