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I think the notion of "vulnerable narcissism" presented by the article is a very interesting one. It's not the same as the classic narcissism that you might hav
by JimboOmega 8y ago
I think the notion of "vulnerable narcissism" presented by the article is a very interesting one. It's not the same as the classic narcissism that you might have been on the 'sharp end' of.
The "vulnerable narcissist" (as presented) is incredibly concerned with what other people think (at least on a shallow level), but often views themselves very negatively. They have a negative bias to self image and a lack of assertiveness but are nonetheless very focused on how they are perceived and themselves in general.
The "vulnerable" variety resonates with me quite a bit more. I could never agree with a statement like "I am a superior person", but I can agree with a statement like "I often feel as if I need compliments from others in order to be sure of myself." At various times in my life I have been very engaged in fishing for likes, compliments, whatever kind of approval I can get.
That has changed a lot for me recently, because I finally transitioned (I'm a transgender woman). Accepting that freed me from a lot of inauthenticity. I don't need the Internet to constantly validate my femininity any more, I don't feel terribly ashamed for wanting femininity in my life, etc. I still do think about gender, but rather to my surprise I spend way less time asking myself if I'm performing femininity correctly than I did performing masculinity - getting closer to that authentic place the article talks about.
I have been on the "sharp end" of the class sort courtesy of my mom. Like Trump, she lives in a bubble where reality itself distorts. One of the most obvious examples is whenever my gender comes up she always claims others in the family feel exactly the same way as she does, even when this is laughably and obviously incorrect. In fact she extends this to the rest of the world, claiming that e.g., I'm the laughing stock of all of my friends and they only act nice around me to be politically correct(even though, obviously, I'm in contact with them more than she is).
I could list countless other examples; for instance she claimed that the reason my brother and his wife decided not to have a child was because she wanted to fly to Paris and buy a purse. She simply warps reality to a space that is consistent with how she feels, even when that is absurd.
You shouldn't dismiss the resulting behavioral patterns that I have, though - for instance, constantly fishing for validation that refutes what she says. It tends to me being inauthentic and approval seeking. It also means that I do not put myself in vulnerable positions whenever possible. This means things like not interviewing for jobs and missing other opportunities because the risk of failure might validate all that negative talk. It means doing mediocre work intentionally so I can brush it off as "I didn't really try".
And most of all, like classic narcissism, it means failing to form deeper relationships or care about others on a level beyond figuring out what it takes to get them to like my selfie. At its most extreme, you get that intense reality distortion, but in a negative way - e.g., I actually believe her when she says things like all my friends are laughing at me as a man in a dress.
It's not accepting that how others view me isn't necessarily how I view myself, and instead believing in a world where everyone thinks the same things I do - or at least, they would, if they saw the "real me", which I have to hide. Hence, the link to impostor syndrome.
- Theodores 8y agoI had to read your comment twice to understand your take on the 'n' word (which I struggle to spell!). In my studying of the narcissism thus far I do look at what happens with the parents, particularly the mum and how extremely early things can go wrong. So I thought it interesting that you mentioned your mum, and it is not really possible to go 'no contact' on close family. I am also interested in how our make up is determined by the mix of testosterone/estrogen that we get before we get born. As I understand it the mix can be set one way or the other at different stages of development therefore affecting the final outcome. You can get the mixture over-rided by the mum's mix of the two to end up far from binary male or binary female. If the anatomy is built on one mix and the brain developed on a different mix then anything could happen, including being left handed or being a 'gay man trapped inside a woman's body', or just straight gay. So much of our identity is complicated that it can be hard to see it as some changes in the mix. For instance, one of my school friends was the 'only gay in the village' but he was also the last child of eight siblings and I wasn't going to tell him that his sexuality and decade long coming out process was just because his mum's womb was just knackered and incapable of keeping the mix consistent. However, I wish that society was more accepting of this 'mix theory'. Anyway, my original comment was really a reaction to comments of people self-diagnosing themselves as narcissist. My main thought on narcissism is that we need to have some simple tests that we make our elected politicians take so we can weed out those that have no 'empathy glands'. Forget politics of the left and the right, just weed out those that are not wired for the job.
- JimboOmega 8y agoMy main point was that the narcissism (I've been copying and pasting, the spelling IS impossible) you're describing being on the pointed of, that's more familiar, is different than the other kind the article talks about. Specifically, having a narcissistic mother and being trans led to me being that other kind, that always feels phony and is always trying to come up with some version of self that's packaged for the approval of others. Good luck getting any kind of change on the political front
- ModernMech 8y ago