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> GrayKey is a completely unethical company. They are selling unauthorized access to people's devices. The fact that their main clients are law enforcement offi
by snowwrestler 8y ago
> GrayKey is a completely unethical company. They are selling unauthorized access to people's devices. The fact that their main clients are law enforcement officers is irrelevant.
I'd say this is an example of a higher ethic or moral at stake. Not everyone agrees with you that law enforcement access to a device is always unethical. It certainly can be, if the police are acting unethically (which some do). But if they are properly investigating a crime and get a warrant, that's going to cross into the OK zone for a lot of people.
> I can't believe you'd suggest that Apple is in the wrong for hindering GrayKey's efforts.
I did not suggest that and I don't believe that. I think it's great that Apple is fixing their device security.
- chongli 8y agoI'd say this is an example of a higher ethic or moral at stake. Not everyone agrees with you that law enforcement access to a device is always unethical. It certainly can be, if the police are acting unethically (which some do). But if they are properly investigating a crime and get a warrant, that's going to cross into the OK zone for a lot of people. Not for me. There's nothing sacred about the police. They spend a heck of a lot of time and effort acting as foot soldiers in a class war against the impoverished. They engage in widespread legalized highway robbery in the form of civil forfeiture. And if you want to include customs and border patrol (I do) they also spend a ton of time breaking up desperate families and conducting dragnet surveillance against innocent travellers. And their effectiveness in all these endeavours? Abysmal, if you take their stated aims at face value.