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Most states in the US already compensate farmers for wolf and grizzly bear predation. Hunter's elk success rate has slowly but surely trended upwards consisten
by jaegerpicker 8y ago
Most states in the US already compensate farmers for wolf and grizzly bear predation.
Hunter's elk success rate has slowly but surely trended upwards consistently over the last 20 years in most states. Here is an example from Montana, I haven't looked up data from other states yes but according to what I have read it's a similar trend.
https://github.com/jaegerpicker/MontantaElkHunterSuccessRate/blob/master/ElkHunterSuccessRate.ipynb https://github.com/jaegerpicker/MontantaElkHunterSuccessRate...
Also you should care about Elk Hunters if you care about conservation at all in the US and Canada. Virtually all conservation of North American species comes from hunter based organizations and 90% of all money for conservation comes from hunting and/or fishing organizations. In fact the national park system was started by hunters as was the Sierra Club. Without their support wildlife conservation in North America and Africa would collapse quickly.
- drb91 8y ago> Virtually all conservation of North American species comes from hunter based organizations and 90% of all money for conservation comes from hunting and/or fishing organizations. What does funding conservation actually look like? Blowing up coal plants? I’d imagine conservation would mostly look like preventing humans from entering the area at all.
- codyb 8y agoA lot of it is things like national parks, estuaries, and forests. Hunters tend to be huge proponents for conservation since they like to hunt. Most people are tremendously bad at supporting tax dollars going towards the total prevention of their entry, and people taking hikes and camping is very healthy. I understand it's a nice idea to have human free zones, but it doesn't seem particularly realisitic to me, and small amounts of foot track don't seem troubling to me either. All those big game hunters that kill lions kill the old ones and pay big bucks to do it. That money goes towards conservation. Edit: but also, what a weird imagination. Conservation as acts of domestic terrorism. I guess that's what the imagination's good for!
- drb91 8y agoThat’s not conservation; that’s a large zoo.
- jaegerpicker 8y agoI know this is most likely a troll but in the oft chance you are being legit with this comment: The idea that humans can’t or shouldn’t be part of the wider wild world is insane. We are nothing truly special, We are just really smart monkey’s. We absolutely can preserve and interact with the natural world. I’d rather say that’s is the only point worth working to save it.
- drb91 8y agoI don’t disagree. Still, that’s not what I would recognize as conservation.