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To add to your point, I got into programming because I modified the buy menus in counter-strike to my liking when I was a young teen and immediately got hooked

To add to your point, I got into programming because I modified the buy menus in counter-strike to my liking when I was a young teen and immediately got hooked by the idea that I could make my computer automate things for me. And let's be honest, as much as I like(d) counter-strike it's not an intellectual game by a long shot. I remember my internet was so bad I had to add wait;wait;wait between issuing commands to the server or they would be dropped -- have been dealing with latency ever since :)

Cyph0n 8y ago
> And let's be honest, as much as I like(d) counter-strike it's not an intellectual game by a long shot. Oh, you'd be surprised by how much strategy goes into CS at the highest levels of play.
- 0x54D5 8y ago
  My first devops experience was maintaining Red Hat 7 boxes hosting Counter-Strike servers. I believe the version of CS at the time was 1.1. Our clan leader was IT for some company in Boston and was able to have these servers out of his office on a 100 mbit connection when the average internet connection was still dial up. I think I was 15 at the time. The experience tought me a lot about SSH, compiling, text logs, config files, etc etc etc.
- fawak 8y ago
  > At the highest levels of play. So not for 99.99% of the players. Although it's not the same subject, this reminds me of a video by Duncan "Thoorin" Shields, a rather controversial and prominent eSports figure: "Gaming is a Waste of Time" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiXfnfBk3BM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiXfnfBk3BM) In the video, he talks (among other things) about people justifying the time they spend on video games by the fact that some players win millions by playing the game. Sure some do, but the very vast majority of players don't, and using the 0.01% of players as an exemple is not a good argument in favour of video games.
  - Cyph0n 8y ago
    How did you come up with that percentage? Have you ever played CS? Firstly, OP basically said that CS is not a strategic game at all, which is completely false. Secondly, CS can get extremely strategic in the professional scene, but it is also quite strategic at higher ranks in the game's competitive mode ladder. It is also a heavily team-based game: e.g., if one of your team members is not communicating, you are at a huge disadvantage.
    - bluntfang 8y ago
      >How did you come up with that percentage? Have you ever played CS? Ok, well tell us the percentage of CS players that play at the highest level?
      - Cyph0n 8y ago
        Do I look like I work at Valve?
bowlich 8y ago
One of my earliest memories of "programming" was the discovery that Age of Empires .ai files could be edited in notepad to change (or in my case, intentionally break) the unit build progression of the computer players.

Cyph0n 8y ago

> And let's be honest, as much as I like(d) counter-strike it's not an intellectual game by a long shot. Oh, you'd be surprised by how much strategy goes into CS at the highest levels of play.

0x54D5 8y ago
My first devops experience was maintaining Red Hat 7 boxes hosting Counter-Strike servers. I believe the version of CS at the time was 1.1. Our clan leader was IT for some company in Boston and was able to have these servers out of his office on a 100 mbit connection when the average internet connection was still dial up. I think I was 15 at the time. The experience tought me a lot about SSH, compiling, text logs, config files, etc etc etc.
fawak 8y ago
> At the highest levels of play. So not for 99.99% of the players. Although it's not the same subject, this reminds me of a video by Duncan "Thoorin" Shields, a rather controversial and prominent eSports figure: "Gaming is a Waste of Time" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiXfnfBk3BM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiXfnfBk3BM) In the video, he talks (among other things) about people justifying the time they spend on video games by the fact that some players win millions by playing the game. Sure some do, but the very vast majority of players don't, and using the 0.01% of players as an exemple is not a good argument in favour of video games.
- Cyph0n 8y ago
  How did you come up with that percentage? Have you ever played CS? Firstly, OP basically said that CS is not a strategic game at all, which is completely false. Secondly, CS can get extremely strategic in the professional scene, but it is also quite strategic at higher ranks in the game's competitive mode ladder. It is also a heavily team-based game: e.g., if one of your team members is not communicating, you are at a huge disadvantage.
  - bluntfang 8y ago
    >How did you come up with that percentage? Have you ever played CS? Ok, well tell us the percentage of CS players that play at the highest level?
    - Cyph0n 8y ago
      Do I look like I work at Valve?

bowlich 8y ago

One of my earliest memories of "programming" was the discovery that Age of Empires .ai files could be edited in notepad to change (or in my case, intentionally break) the unit build progression of the computer players.