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Canada is NOT a democracy, is a "protectorate" of UK crown, so do not be surprised. Canadians are NOT citizen, they are, formally, subjects of her majesty the q

by xte 8y ago

Canada is NOT a democracy, is a "protectorate" of UK crown, so do not be surprised. Canadians are NOT citizen, they are, formally, subjects of her majesty the queen. In continental Europe such an action is simply illegal: only officers can enter a home, only with justice permission or for danger-life situation. Also any IT device can't be sized looking for digital proof, they must be imaged locally with image given to the defendant with relative hashes and a proper chain of custody. Of course sometime police forgot doing that and in MANY cases any proof became simply invalid in court. Dear "citizens" freedom does not came from "ether" and stay forever, must be conquered and kept. Business as usual and classic Chomsky frog principle are the best weapon few people have to shift between representative government to corporatocracy.

dragonwriter 8y ago
> Canada is NOT a democracy, is a "protectorate" of UK crown, so do not be surprised. It is not a protectorate of the UK crown, it is a separate constitutional monarchy that happens to have the same sovereign as the UK; like most similarly-situated ex-British states (and Britain itself), the substantive form of government is a representative democracy.
- OJFord 8y ago
  And further, having a monarchy (or even being "a \"protectorate\" of [a] crown") says nothing of the legality of private companies searching citizens homes...
  - xte 8y ago
    Sorry for my poor English, not my motherlanguage. You are right being a monarchy says nothing of the legality of private companies searching citizens homes. However being a monarchy means NOT being citizens, peer between peers and thet's a very very very important thing that may justify anything else. Symbols are symbols but still have their importance.
    - Lio 8y ago
      English may not be your first language but you clearly are not in possession of how constitutional monarchies work. Even in the UK British people _are_ citizens, so could you please stop repeating this nonsense? https://www.gov.uk/check-british-citizen https://www.gov.uk/check-british-citizen Canada has it's own rules on citizenship and you can find them here: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-citizenship.html https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/se...
    - OJFord 8y ago
      The word for 'citizen' may have such a meaning in your native language, but I'm afraid it does not translate.
Jedi72 8y ago
You ignore the most basic fact of freedom, that it lives in the hearts and minds of the people. It doesn't really matter what's written down on paper, the Canadian people would not follow the Queen.
- xte 8y ago
  No, I do not ignore but it doesn't matter what people think if people live in such form of government, symbols still matter. Do not forget that nazism, fascism etc do not born as "bad guys with many guns and ammunition", they born as founded small political parties and they grow, not so suddenly, thanks to a certain political environment, certain economic environment and a small laws at a time, following what we call now Chomsky frog model. They start to be "bad guys" when they feel strong enough. I do not say that Canada will evolve soon in a new nazi country of course, but I'm pretty sure it will evolve in a corporatocracy more and more powerful and Canadians have less symbolic and democratic/formal weapons to fight that change.
  - Lio 8y ago
    Well history proves you wrong. The last British monarch that ignored the will of Parliament had their head cut off in front of a crowd. There is no divine right of Kings anywhere in the Commonwealth. Ever since the restoration in 1660 the deal has been that the monarch has to follow the will of the people as expressed through Parliament. For example Charles 2nd wanted to convert to Catholicism but couldn't for political reasons. That was further strengthened by the Glorious Revolution and the Bill of Rights 1689 and the Act of Settlement 1701. Your assertion that Canadians are somehow more likely to fall to corporatocracy because they live in constitutional monarchy is just naive ignorance.

by xte 8y ago

dragonwriter 8y ago

> Canada is NOT a democracy, is a "protectorate" of UK crown, so do not be surprised. It is not a protectorate of the UK crown, it is a separate constitutional monarchy that happens to have the same sovereign as the UK; like most similarly-situated ex-British states (and Britain itself), the substantive form of government is a representative democracy.

OJFord 8y ago
And further, having a monarchy (or even being "a \"protectorate\" of [a] crown") says nothing of the legality of private companies searching citizens homes...
- xte 8y ago
  Sorry for my poor English, not my motherlanguage. You are right being a monarchy says nothing of the legality of private companies searching citizens homes. However being a monarchy means NOT being citizens, peer between peers and thet's a very very very important thing that may justify anything else. Symbols are symbols but still have their importance.
  - Lio 8y ago
    English may not be your first language but you clearly are not in possession of how constitutional monarchies work. Even in the UK British people _are_ citizens, so could you please stop repeating this nonsense? https://www.gov.uk/check-british-citizen https://www.gov.uk/check-british-citizen Canada has it's own rules on citizenship and you can find them here: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-citizenship.html https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/se...
  - OJFord 8y ago
    The word for 'citizen' may have such a meaning in your native language, but I'm afraid it does not translate.

Jedi72 8y ago

You ignore the most basic fact of freedom, that it lives in the hearts and minds of the people. It doesn't really matter what's written down on paper, the Canadian people would not follow the Queen.

xte 8y ago
No, I do not ignore but it doesn't matter what people think if people live in such form of government, symbols still matter. Do not forget that nazism, fascism etc do not born as "bad guys with many guns and ammunition", they born as founded small political parties and they grow, not so suddenly, thanks to a certain political environment, certain economic environment and a small laws at a time, following what we call now Chomsky frog model. They start to be "bad guys" when they feel strong enough. I do not say that Canada will evolve soon in a new nazi country of course, but I'm pretty sure it will evolve in a corporatocracy more and more powerful and Canadians have less symbolic and democratic/formal weapons to fight that change.
- Lio 8y ago
  Well history proves you wrong. The last British monarch that ignored the will of Parliament had their head cut off in front of a crowd. There is no divine right of Kings anywhere in the Commonwealth. Ever since the restoration in 1660 the deal has been that the monarch has to follow the will of the people as expressed through Parliament. For example Charles 2nd wanted to convert to Catholicism but couldn't for political reasons. That was further strengthened by the Glorious Revolution and the Bill of Rights 1689 and the Act of Settlement 1701. Your assertion that Canadians are somehow more likely to fall to corporatocracy because they live in constitutional monarchy is just naive ignorance.