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Seeing that you grew up in Massachusetts, went to CMU, and now live San Francisco, I can see why you hold that opinion. Come visit me in Louisiana and I will s

by jriot 8y ago

Seeing that you grew up in Massachusetts, went to CMU, and now live San Francisco, I can see why you hold that opinion. Come visit me in Louisiana and I will show its a socio-economic issue, not a race issue.

malcolmgreaves 8y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18305769 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18305769
- jriot 8y ago
  You're not going to convenience a white southern who enlisted in the military out of high school on the myth of white privilege.
  - malcolmgreaves 8y ago
    *the fact of white privilege
    - jriot 8y ago
      Opinion.
      - malcolmgreaves 8y ago
        Sticking your head in the sand because you don't want to see the truth doesn't make it go away.
        jriot 8y ago
        Just because you live in the echo chamber known as SF, based on pushing identity and race into everything, doesn't make it true.
        malcolmgreaves 8y ago
        Your privilege is evident in your response here. As a white person, you have the luxury of not thinking about race. That's one of your privileges. If you're a person of color, it's impossible to not think about race all of the time. Also, it's evident that you're not being a genuine conversational partner here: you clearly didn't even read the first sentence of the post I linked earlier. You keep believing that white privilege = someone comes to your door to give you money.
        jriot 8y ago
        Most people don't think about race, particularly those outside of the coastal cities, excluding the south. There are far more pressing issues than to think about race at every turn or any turn for that matter. If you believe people consume their time thinking about race you are naive. Let's pretend for a second white privilege exists, why would I as white male, give-up something that actually benefits me in this world? Are you going to purposefully make life harder for yourself?
- Chris2048 8y ago
  How does that inform your reasoning above? How does being part of a group racially targeted by cops mean you can bring something different to a software development team, outside very specific examples of software?
  - malcolmgreaves 8y ago
    You, uh, answered your own question in your second sentence. Do you expect me to enumerate all the possible ways? Why don't you think about your life experience has been shaped by your gender and race? Your writing implies that society doesn't treat people differently on their skin complexion and gender. Do you believe that?
    - Chris2048 8y ago
      > Do you believe that? I don't believe that, I also don't believe that "my writing implies that" - dont put words in my mouth, it's aggravating to play that game. > Do you expect me to enumerate all the possible ways? I'm asking specifically what this brings to a software team; just a few good (general) examples will do. I can't see how I answered that; Are you saying the answer is only in "very specific examples of software"? > don't you think about your life experience has been shaped by your gender and race Yes, but nothing to do with my programming contributions

by jriot 8y ago

malcolmgreaves 8y ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18305769 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18305769

jriot 8y ago
You're not going to convenience a white southern who enlisted in the military out of high school on the myth of white privilege.
- malcolmgreaves 8y ago
  *the fact of white privilege
  - jriot 8y ago
    Opinion.
    - malcolmgreaves 8y ago
      Sticking your head in the sand because you don't want to see the truth doesn't make it go away.
      - jriot 8y ago
        Just because you live in the echo chamber known as SF, based on pushing identity and race into everything, doesn't make it true.
        malcolmgreaves 8y ago
        Your privilege is evident in your response here. As a white person, you have the luxury of not thinking about race. That's one of your privileges. If you're a person of color, it's impossible to not think about race all of the time. Also, it's evident that you're not being a genuine conversational partner here: you clearly didn't even read the first sentence of the post I linked earlier. You keep believing that white privilege = someone comes to your door to give you money.
        jriot 8y ago
        Most people don't think about race, particularly those outside of the coastal cities, excluding the south. There are far more pressing issues than to think about race at every turn or any turn for that matter. If you believe people consume their time thinking about race you are naive. Let's pretend for a second white privilege exists, why would I as white male, give-up something that actually benefits me in this world? Are you going to purposefully make life harder for yourself?
Chris2048 8y ago
How does that inform your reasoning above? How does being part of a group racially targeted by cops mean you can bring something different to a software development team, outside very specific examples of software?
- malcolmgreaves 8y ago
  You, uh, answered your own question in your second sentence. Do you expect me to enumerate all the possible ways? Why don't you think about your life experience has been shaped by your gender and race? Your writing implies that society doesn't treat people differently on their skin complexion and gender. Do you believe that?
  - Chris2048 8y ago
    > Do you believe that? I don't believe that, I also don't believe that "my writing implies that" - dont put words in my mouth, it's aggravating to play that game. > Do you expect me to enumerate all the possible ways? I'm asking specifically what this brings to a software team; just a few good (general) examples will do. I can't see how I answered that; Are you saying the answer is only in "very specific examples of software"? > don't you think about your life experience has been shaped by your gender and race Yes, but nothing to do with my programming contributions