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When is Sergey going to be sacked? Wasn't he in some sort of an inappropriate relationship with a subordinate, leading to a separation from his wife, now YouTub
by bitL 8y ago
When is Sergey going to be sacked? Wasn't he in some sort of an inappropriate relationship with a subordinate, leading to a separation from his wife, now YouTube CEO?
- randyrand 8y agonot necessarily harassment to be in a relationship with a subordinate. Were there other details?
- sz4kerto 8y agoIt's tricky. Normally you're not supposed to establish intimate relationship at the workplace if there is a clear power difference between the parties. Similarly to how teacher-student relationships are frowned upon (even if both parties are adults). The problem is simple to understand.
- randyrand 8y agoThose are frowned upon primarily to protect the company's profit interest or the honor of the schools grading system. It possibly makes the potential for harassment greater, but it's not necessarily harassment to have a relationship with a subordinate.
- bunderbunder 8y agoEven in the absence of harassment, it's still a clear violation of professional ethics. At the absolute least, it creates a conflict of interest.
- randyrand 8y agoIf 2 people are meant to be together I really don’t think they would or should care. My employers profit interest is such a relatively small concern. Love can be what make life worth living. Love should trump that IMO. It amazes me that someone would argue that you should prevent a relationship because of an employers best interest. Im glad people like Sergey can look past that.
- krainboltgreene 8y ago> If 2 people are meant to be together What does this even mean?
- randyrand 8y agoIts an English phrase common in America. Read around these google results to get a better idea: https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&ei=KJXTW4OgA-iO0wLw_rXgAg&q=two+people+are+meant+to+be+together&oq=two+people+are+meant+to+be+together&gs_l=psy-ab.3...6473.7190..7551...1.0..0.64.231.4......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71.jfHTA8MJmFY https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&ei=KJXTW4...
- bunderbunder 8y agoI'm hardly saying you should prevent a relationship. I'm saying that you've got to pick one: Either both people can pursue a romantic relationship, or they can retain their manager/subordinate working relationship. It's up to them to decide which one they'd rather have.
- prepend 8y agoThey are frowned upon because the power imbalance creates difficulty in giving consent (and high school teachers usually means statutory rape issues). Same reason for doctor/patient and many other situations where power imbalance exists.
- randyrand 8y agoAt the same time it can also be completely easy to give consent despite the power imbalance - if 2 people are really into each other.
- mjrpes 8y agoEven if the relationship starts all well and mutual, it can go sour. Then power dynamic come into play and the institution suffers. The only way to guarantee a safe environment is to prohibit these relationships.
- randyrand 8y agoNever going to happen in practice. People are willing to go to great lengths for love. sure they might get fired, that won’t stop them.
- matz1 8y agoEvery situation are different, its matter of balancing risk vs reward.
- LanceH 8y ago"you're not supposed" Yea, the company should probably be in charge of who you get to associate with.
- asianthrowaway 8y agoThere's a difference between having an affair and sexually harassing someone.
- shard972 8y agoYea, an affair is much worse.
- asianthrowaway 8y agoHow so?
- bitL 8y agoHow was Anne feeling? How about Chloe & Benji? They don't matter in the overall picture?
- asianthrowaway 8y agoObviously I'm not trying to imply that having affairs is good or desirable... but there's a clear distinction between an affair, which is consensual, and sexual harassment, which is non consensual. The personal drama resulting from an affair is exactly that: personal, and it shouldn't be grounds for termination. On the other hand, sexual harassment is a threat to workspace safety and should obviously be dealt with swiftly.
- bitL 8y agoOK, I agree with the personal/professional split point you touched. Though there is a significant power imbalance, often people are attracted to power/their powerful superiors, and that is a direct threat to workplace stability, maybe even safety, though not as directly as unwanted advances. Still, even if you categorize this as "wanted advances" due to the aforementioned attraction to superior for whatever complex reason, it could be viewed as both a hack in progress from the superior to the person they find attractive and also as a way for the subordinate to improve their standing within the company without any merit. That might be even more demoralizing to a large group of employees than a single instance of a sexual harassment to a single person and termination would be absolutely justified.
- tehwebguy 8y agoWrong Wojcicki. Her sister, Susan, is CEO of YouTube.
- bitL 8y agoAh, you are right! Just remembered surname... Thanks!
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- sbilstein 8y agoI feel very nosy for knowing this but it was the marketing manager for Google Glass. https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2014/04/sergey-brin-amanda-rosenberg-affair https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2014/04/sergey-brin-amanda-...