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Sure, because zero-tolerance policies work so well in practice.. While we're at it, why don't we also tell teenagers about sex? One word: Don't. Problem solve

Sure, because zero-tolerance policies work so well in practice.. While we're at it, why don't we also tell teenagers about sex? One word: Don't. Problem solved.

munificent 8y ago
Should we not have higher expectations for rich senior executives than we do your average teenager?
- yongjik 8y ago
  I'm not objecting to holding executives at higher standard. I'm objecting to zero-tolerance policies at workplace (or anywhere), which is (in a way) the opposite of holding people at higher standard: it's basically saying "I don't trust you to have common sense, so here are the rules and you will follow them unquestionably." It's a pain in the ass for those who have common sense, and unmitigated disaster for those who don't.
  - chrisbennet 8y ago
    Everyone thinks they have common sense but it all goes out the window when romance is involved. When you decide to date a close coworker, you are setting her (and it’s always her) to lose her job or feel uncomfortable enough that she needs to leave, if it doesn’t work out. Many men don’t even consider that ‘cause hormones.
    - PaulRivers 8y ago
      No, theen who don't consider it get laid while the men who do consider don't get anywhere. You'll notice these themes are always repetively "sex bad!" with no "sex good" elements ever.
- TallGuyShort 8y ago
  Oh - do a lot of rich senior executives display a greater degree of sexual restraint than high school students?
- naasking 8y ago
  I think human mating dynamics are far more nuanced than can be captured by simplistic rules, and that's true regardless of the ages involved.
geodel 8y ago
You may be exaggerating, but I find it very reasonable advice in these times, and not just for teenagers.
smueller1234 8y ago
My previous employer, Booking Holdings, then the Priceline Group and one of the largest e-commerce companies, treated these kinds of issues with a lot of respect. So much so that allegations were investigated by OUTSIDE counsel, who then also made the call on how far to go in the investigation. This led to the dismissal of the group CEO (relationship with indirect report) and number of other execs over the years. There was also always a way to (anonymously if need be) report such things to a third party (not just hr). Managers and execs generally considered it a feature, not a threat. Every so often, somebody would try to use the mechanism for a vendetta, but best I can tell (and I've been involved in a few of these investigations), those were effectively recognized as such and treated with respect for accuser and subject of the complaint. In other words, this is solvable problem.

Sure, because zero-tolerance policies work so well in practice.. While we're at it, why don't we also tell teenagers about sex? One word: Don't. Problem solved.

munificent 8y ago

Should we not have higher expectations for rich senior executives than we do your average teenager?

yongjik 8y ago
I'm not objecting to holding executives at higher standard. I'm objecting to zero-tolerance policies at workplace (or anywhere), which is (in a way) the opposite of holding people at higher standard: it's basically saying "I don't trust you to have common sense, so here are the rules and you will follow them unquestionably." It's a pain in the ass for those who have common sense, and unmitigated disaster for those who don't.
- chrisbennet 8y ago
  Everyone thinks they have common sense but it all goes out the window when romance is involved. When you decide to date a close coworker, you are setting her (and it’s always her) to lose her job or feel uncomfortable enough that she needs to leave, if it doesn’t work out. Many men don’t even consider that ‘cause hormones.
  - PaulRivers 8y ago
    No, theen who don't consider it get laid while the men who do consider don't get anywhere. You'll notice these themes are always repetively "sex bad!" with no "sex good" elements ever.
TallGuyShort 8y ago
Oh - do a lot of rich senior executives display a greater degree of sexual restraint than high school students?
naasking 8y ago
I think human mating dynamics are far more nuanced than can be captured by simplistic rules, and that's true regardless of the ages involved.

geodel 8y ago

You may be exaggerating, but I find it very reasonable advice in these times, and not just for teenagers.

smueller1234 8y ago

My previous employer, Booking Holdings, then the Priceline Group and one of the largest e-commerce companies, treated these kinds of issues with a lot of respect. So much so that allegations were investigated by OUTSIDE counsel, who then also made the call on how far to go in the investigation. This led to the dismissal of the group CEO (relationship with indirect report) and number of other execs over the years. There was also always a way to (anonymously if need be) report such things to a third party (not just hr). Managers and execs generally considered it a feature, not a threat. Every so often, somebody would try to use the mechanism for a vendetta, but best I can tell (and I've been involved in a few of these investigations), those were effectively recognized as such and treated with respect for accuser and subject of the complaint. In other words, this is solvable problem.