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The ban hammer would be my concern posting this blog. He would probably get away with it if he didn't publicize it, but my understanding is Tesla has no problem

The ban hammer would be my concern posting this blog. He would probably get away with it if he didn't publicize it, but my understanding is Tesla has no problem banning cars that it deems unauthorized from receiving updates, using supercharging, etc.

ryanlol 8y ago
I’m not 100% sure but AFAIK tesla has done a really terrible job with the mechanisms they use to ban you from those.
e1ven 8y ago
That's such a weird sentence to read. The idea of buying a car and being afraid to modify it because of how the manufacturer might react feels entirely dystopian to me.
- ethagknight 8y ago
  Banning it from continuing support and free services, kinda like voiding a warranty?
  - e1ven 8y ago
    Absolutely - In the US anyway, it's illegal to void a warranty because you modify the product. They don't need to cover any damage done by the modifications, but they can't deny warranty coverage to anything else. I'm not an expert, but I think the relevant law is the Magnuson-Moss Act.
- ada1981 8y ago
  I wonder if Musk can autoban cars Via twitter. Also, I wonder if all Tesla’s have a God Mode that unlocks at the sound of Elons voice or will come get him if needed. So if he is ever running away from a villain in a major city he can access a getaway car anywhere he sees a Tesla.
  - rzzzt 8y ago
    He just talks into his watch and the cars nearby surround him in a circle.
- olivermarks 8y ago
  'The idea of buying a car and being afraid to modify it because of how the manufacturer might react feels entirely dystopian to me' That is exactly where we have been going. for years if you remove the plastic engine cover on Porsches you risk voiding your rights. Now we have the capability of cars that phone home with unauthorized mods being made illegal at the DMV, made illegible for sw updates etc etc. This is another area where our digital rights to privacy and ownership are under serious assault, much like smart phone OS bricking. You own it but you don't have any rights.

ryanlol 8y ago

I’m not 100% sure but AFAIK tesla has done a really terrible job with the mechanisms they use to ban you from those.

e1ven 8y ago

That's such a weird sentence to read. The idea of buying a car and being afraid to modify it because of how the manufacturer might react feels entirely dystopian to me.

ethagknight 8y ago
Banning it from continuing support and free services, kinda like voiding a warranty?
- e1ven 8y ago
  Absolutely - In the US anyway, it's illegal to void a warranty because you modify the product. They don't need to cover any damage done by the modifications, but they can't deny warranty coverage to anything else. I'm not an expert, but I think the relevant law is the Magnuson-Moss Act.
ada1981 8y ago
I wonder if Musk can autoban cars Via twitter. Also, I wonder if all Tesla’s have a God Mode that unlocks at the sound of Elons voice or will come get him if needed. So if he is ever running away from a villain in a major city he can access a getaway car anywhere he sees a Tesla.
- rzzzt 8y ago
  He just talks into his watch and the cars nearby surround him in a circle.
olivermarks 8y ago
'The idea of buying a car and being afraid to modify it because of how the manufacturer might react feels entirely dystopian to me' That is exactly where we have been going. for years if you remove the plastic engine cover on Porsches you risk voiding your rights. Now we have the capability of cars that phone home with unauthorized mods being made illegal at the DMV, made illegible for sw updates etc etc. This is another area where our digital rights to privacy and ownership are under serious assault, much like smart phone OS bricking. You own it but you don't have any rights.