Background: Had a walkthrough demo and code dive at our PHP group a few months ago. One of the guys in our coworking space runs a WP user group. I've used WP f

Background: Had a walkthrough demo and code dive at our PHP group a few months ago. One of the guys in our coworking space runs a WP user group. I've used WP for some projects for years. I like it for small to medium content, but have hated doing large "dev" projects on it (ecommerce, etc) Gutenberg thoughts: It's seemed to me that much of WP success in the last several years has been driven by the ecosystem of page/theme builders, which have been built around serving various verticals. They've solved a core problem of not having easy baked-in structured data management, and Gutenberg looks like it's a first step in standardizing that. It seems the tools community will need to adapt to that, which they might, but it also seems like it might be taking away some of their value-add, and there may not be enough room higher-up the chain to add value. I don't know if there's a huge reason for some of the theme/page services to rush to support the upgraded 5.x series; if it makes it easier to switch to a competitor... will they have much incentive? This is certainly a shift in the WP world, but it feels like it's at a point where they could lose a chunk of users to competitors. For a lot of other users, though... where would they go? As with many upgrades, if the pain is too much for not much value, that's a time when people would consider other options more seriously.