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But you don't. Cleaning dishes, floor and and clothes is not a full time job: I(ve have done it for decades, but now have people to clean my house, cook and was

But you don't. Cleaning dishes, floor and and clothes is not a full time job: I(ve have done it for decades, but now have people to clean my house, cook and wash my clotheres. So your robot will sit idle most of the day, unless you have a much bigger house or a big family. And remember that for the next 20 years, the robots won't be able to do many things due to motor skills/autonomy/analysis capabilities. So they may, by as for now can't replace a full time human. Android are still scifi.

robocat 8y ago
> So your robot will sit idle most of the day I think you have a "neurotic" cleaner robot working full time to make sure your house, dishes, and clothes are perfectly finished. Part of the package is a cheap third-world worker for an hour to remotely waldo the robot for the difficult parts, and do the final checks. The robot is bought using finance, like a car. Or bought on a service plan that gives you "free" upgrades every few years. It then becomes a social norm to have a robot "My, how unclean your home is, whyever don't you get an Apple Dysony like I have". (I'm unsure what the marketing would be in countries where you don't visit friend's houses...)
- TheSpiceIsLife 8y ago
  Yep, this is what I’m talking about. Well said too :)
- sametmax 8y ago
  VOIP still doesn't work properly in the Valley one time out of two, and you want somebody from the other side of the world remotly handling breakable things in the house ? The first robot killing the cat by dropping a knife because of a lag is going to be fun.
  - TheSpiceIsLife 8y ago
    Sure, but then... You know, there hasn’t been a technological advancement we’ve managed to refrain from using. So it’s either it’s just a matter of time, or it’s not possible due to some limitation(a). Let’s assuming for a minute that this does eventuate, and some robot does manage to kill the cat: we’ll get over it. We haven’t regulated the car out of existence yet, and they have a tendency to kill quite the many cats.* *all analogies breakdown under scrutiny.
    - sametmax 8y ago
      Of course. I'm not saying it can't happen. I'm saying it's still scify. We have nowhere close the technology to make it happen yet. I'm convinced AI and androids will come around. I just don't think it will happen in this decade.
      - TheSpiceIsLife 8y ago
        I’m still not completely sold on the certainty of either. Time will tell.
  - robocat 8y ago
    Jeepers - as though the Valley is the centre of the universe? If latency turns out to be a serious issue, then remote control robots would be installed where latency is reliable, or where home owners can get low latency connections. Most likely latency will improve for the valley over the next few years. Certainly VoiP is reliable in many other countries. We use a cheap provider at work (virtually no issues), and I used it at home in 2011 and it was rock solid. And NZ is definitely on the edge of the main networks! Edits: PS: second anecdote: I'm on an island in the Mediterranean at the moment, and VoiP seems very usable. PPS: what do the gamers in your neighborhood do to resolve ping times? They usually are extremely interested in diagnosing the underlying causes of latency and finding solutions (although you obviously need to find a more engineer type gamer than a script kiddie soothsayer type)
    - TheSpiceIsLife 8y ago
      We just switched to all VoIP desk phones at work, over our NBN connections. Same at home. Works flawlessly. Both providers, Telstra at work, and Internode at home, give VoIP traffic the highest priority QoS, as far as I’m aware. It’s been a while since I worked Internode.
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robocat 8y ago

> So your robot will sit idle most of the day I think you have a "neurotic" cleaner robot working full time to make sure your house, dishes, and clothes are perfectly finished. Part of the package is a cheap third-world worker for an hour to remotely waldo the robot for the difficult parts, and do the final checks. The robot is bought using finance, like a car. Or bought on a service plan that gives you "free" upgrades every few years. It then becomes a social norm to have a robot "My, how unclean your home is, whyever don't you get an Apple Dysony like I have". (I'm unsure what the marketing would be in countries where you don't visit friend's houses...)

TheSpiceIsLife 8y ago
Yep, this is what I’m talking about. Well said too :)
sametmax 8y ago
VOIP still doesn't work properly in the Valley one time out of two, and you want somebody from the other side of the world remotly handling breakable things in the house ? The first robot killing the cat by dropping a knife because of a lag is going to be fun.
- TheSpiceIsLife 8y ago
  Sure, but then... You know, there hasn’t been a technological advancement we’ve managed to refrain from using. So it’s either it’s just a matter of time, or it’s not possible due to some limitation(a). Let’s assuming for a minute that this does eventuate, and some robot does manage to kill the cat: we’ll get over it. We haven’t regulated the car out of existence yet, and they have a tendency to kill quite the many cats.* *all analogies breakdown under scrutiny.
  - sametmax 8y ago
    Of course. I'm not saying it can't happen. I'm saying it's still scify. We have nowhere close the technology to make it happen yet. I'm convinced AI and androids will come around. I just don't think it will happen in this decade.
    - TheSpiceIsLife 8y ago
      I’m still not completely sold on the certainty of either. Time will tell.
- robocat 8y ago
  Jeepers - as though the Valley is the centre of the universe? If latency turns out to be a serious issue, then remote control robots would be installed where latency is reliable, or where home owners can get low latency connections. Most likely latency will improve for the valley over the next few years. Certainly VoiP is reliable in many other countries. We use a cheap provider at work (virtually no issues), and I used it at home in 2011 and it was rock solid. And NZ is definitely on the edge of the main networks! Edits: PS: second anecdote: I'm on an island in the Mediterranean at the moment, and VoiP seems very usable. PPS: what do the gamers in your neighborhood do to resolve ping times? They usually are extremely interested in diagnosing the underlying causes of latency and finding solutions (although you obviously need to find a more engineer type gamer than a script kiddie soothsayer type)
  - TheSpiceIsLife 8y ago
    We just switched to all VoIP desk phones at work, over our NBN connections. Same at home. Works flawlessly. Both providers, Telstra at work, and Internode at home, give VoIP traffic the highest priority QoS, as far as I’m aware. It’s been a while since I worked Internode.

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