I would argue the opposite -- that really simple CRUD stuff really does need a framework. Why waste your time doing mind-numbing work when you can let the fram

I would argue the opposite -- that really simple CRUD stuff really does need a framework. Why waste your time doing mind-numbing work when you can let the framework do it for you? On the other hand, with full-blown web applications that do something out of the ordinary (long-running requests, etc) it might be better to drop down a level of abstraction.