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Having trialled the new offering thanks to a banner in my Wordpress dashboard, I went right back to the old editor. Trouble with the new one is the UX is hostil

Having trialled the new offering thanks to a banner in my Wordpress dashboard, I went right back to the old editor. Trouble with the new one is the UX is hostile - everything needs an extra dozen clicks for the most simple things. I want to publish a post about as fast as writing a text or word doc. The current wordpress editor is unexciting but has a fairly decent workflow. Faffing about with everything on a pulldown or modal is not progress. A fair summary of my views of Gutenberg: https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/wordpress-gutenberg.html https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/wordpress-gutenberg.html

Angostura 8y ago
It may need a few extra click for simple things. But it makes slightly more complex things much simpler
- jononor 8y ago
  But most of the time one does simple things. Hurting the common case to improve a rare case is rarely a good tradeoff.
  - zaphar 8y ago
    The common case for wordpress hasn't been just blogging for quite some time now. The common case is brochure sites for businesses. I wouldn't be surprised to find that writing a simple blog post is actually the rare use case these days.
    - at-fates-hands 8y ago
      This is the Achilles heel of Wordpress. WP is now getting a a TON of competition from static site generators, and companies like Netlify. Headless CMS' and Jamstack are the future for these types of sites and people are coming off of Drupal and Wordpress in huge numbers. As their numbers have shrunk, they've had to make drastic changes. I haven't been seriously involved in the WP community for about five years, but I've heard rumblings within the community about moving to a modern stack that includes ReactJS or VueJS for a while now. At the very least they're trying to maintain their position and modernize WP to appease some of the critics and vocal members of their community.
    - jononor 8y ago
      Agreed on that. Bloggers have left for hosted solutions, Medium and the like. But still most small business content editing is predominantly basic text and images, so editing experience needs to be tailored for that.

Angostura 8y ago

It may need a few extra click for simple things. But it makes slightly more complex things much simpler

jononor 8y ago
But most of the time one does simple things. Hurting the common case to improve a rare case is rarely a good tradeoff.
- zaphar 8y ago
  The common case for wordpress hasn't been just blogging for quite some time now. The common case is brochure sites for businesses. I wouldn't be surprised to find that writing a simple blog post is actually the rare use case these days.
  - at-fates-hands 8y ago
    This is the Achilles heel of Wordpress. WP is now getting a a TON of competition from static site generators, and companies like Netlify. Headless CMS' and Jamstack are the future for these types of sites and people are coming off of Drupal and Wordpress in huge numbers. As their numbers have shrunk, they've had to make drastic changes. I haven't been seriously involved in the WP community for about five years, but I've heard rumblings within the community about moving to a modern stack that includes ReactJS or VueJS for a while now. At the very least they're trying to maintain their position and modernize WP to appease some of the critics and vocal members of their community.
  - jononor 8y ago
    Agreed on that. Bloggers have left for hosted solutions, Medium and the like. But still most small business content editing is predominantly basic text and images, so editing experience needs to be tailored for that.