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On cellular encryption (2013)
- hprotagonist 8y agoI've preferred facetime audio over "regular" cell phone calls for years now. I prefer them because the audio quality is shockingly better -- but facetime calls are also a whole lot harder to listen in on.
- unsignedint 8y agoWhile I hate current implemetnation of regular voice call, I don't know if this is the solution. First, with Facetime, that's only if you can assume everyone is on iOS/macOS. Same goes for any apps, however. It's just tough to agree on one app; if you have group of 20, chances are one or two refuse to install or can't install that app. At least with regular cell phone call, that's less of the problem.
- jszymborski 8y agoIf eavesdropping is something you're concerned with, why not try Signal[0] for audio calls? Surely their privacy guarantees are better. [0] https://www.signal.org/ https://www.signal.org/
- hprotagonist 8y agoI use this too.
- balladeer 8y agoBiggest problem with not using Signal, at least for me, is not its call quality and encryption guarantee. Though its call quality, I've noticed, is better than WhatsApp and encryption is of course evident. It's that pretty much no one else among my contacts uses it. After I convince them to try it for a few days or maybe a week or so they uninstall, labelling it pretty much unusable and devoid of features. Having used this app passively for almost 2 years and actively for last 2 months I can see why. I have had more success with Telegram though.
- currysausage 8y agoShockingly indeed, even under suboptimal network conditions, especially when compared with WhatsApp audio, which I still find unbearable even under seemingly easy network conditions.
- rubatuga 8y agoCan no longer recommend FaceTime as secure
- olliej 8y agoWhy not?
- rubatuga 8y agoI'm assuming that Facetime is no longer peer-to-peer with the introduction of group calling. Also, nobody really knows how the encryption works for the group calling, it's a new feature that will be released with iOS 12.1 Related problems, with iMessage: https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2013/06/26/can-apple-read-your-imessages/ https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2013/06/26/can-appl...
- olliej 8y agoNope, it’s still e2e - all devices share a single negotiated aes key (it’s mentioned briefly in the iOS 12 security guide)
- cde 8y agoWorth noting is that ciphering, regardless of the technology (2G/3G/4G), is optional.
- jijji 8y agoThe goverment doesn't need to worry about cellular phone calls being encrypted. The black boxes are installed at the switch, where there is no encryption.