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> and the fit and finish was just as good if not better than tesla Tesla has the worst fit & finish in the industry. It always comes up with every tear down &

> and the fit and finish was just as good if not better than tesla Tesla has the worst fit & finish in the industry. It always comes up with every tear down & deep review of a Tesla car. Tesla's powertrain is largely the only thing they are good at, and has so far been the thing other car manufacturers have struggled to match.

fossuser 8y ago
Their software with OTA is best in class with nobody even close, their self driving tech is also the best with Cruise coming in second (but including all the other negatives of GM). The seats they’re making in house now are also very comfortable and I like the minimalist interior of the 3, but that’s personal preference. The buying experience was also nice not having to deal with dealers. Their power train and supercharger infrastructure is awesome but it’s not the only thing they’re good at.
sgillen 8y ago
The other thing they are very good at is marketing, both to consumers and to potential employees. I think this is largely thanks to the cult of personality around Elon Musk. I don’t really mean that in a bad way either. If they can retain the engineering talent that has been making their cars (which is by no means guaranteed, from the stories I’ve heard of working conditions) then I think they have a good chance of catching up in the areas where they currently lag behind other companies.
nickik 8y ago
That's just non-sense. If you look at the teardown you will see that Tesla has great electronics (and cheap), best in class battery packs, a fantastic design, great suspension, software integration, innovative air condition, good charging speed and autopilot that is better then most competition. Really the only thing they are not great at is some part of the interior (and not the important console part at the front) and that they have a somewhat cumbersome heavy body.
- kllrnohj 8y ago
  > Really the only thing they are not great at is some part of the interior (and not the important console part at the front) and that they have a somewhat cumbersome heavy body. Pretty sure you're oblivious to what fit and finish means based off of this comment. You listed a bunch of stuff that's not fit and finish followed by acknowledging that stuff that does contribute to fit and finish is poor. Fit and finish are things like panel gaps, paint job quality, interior quality, etc... And Tesla regularly is pitiful at it.

fossuser 8y ago

Their software with OTA is best in class with nobody even close, their self driving tech is also the best with Cruise coming in second (but including all the other negatives of GM). The seats they’re making in house now are also very comfortable and I like the minimalist interior of the 3, but that’s personal preference. The buying experience was also nice not having to deal with dealers. Their power train and supercharger infrastructure is awesome but it’s not the only thing they’re good at.

sgillen 8y ago

The other thing they are very good at is marketing, both to consumers and to potential employees. I think this is largely thanks to the cult of personality around Elon Musk. I don’t really mean that in a bad way either. If they can retain the engineering talent that has been making their cars (which is by no means guaranteed, from the stories I’ve heard of working conditions) then I think they have a good chance of catching up in the areas where they currently lag behind other companies.

nickik 8y ago

That's just non-sense. If you look at the teardown you will see that Tesla has great electronics (and cheap), best in class battery packs, a fantastic design, great suspension, software integration, innovative air condition, good charging speed and autopilot that is better then most competition. Really the only thing they are not great at is some part of the interior (and not the important console part at the front) and that they have a somewhat cumbersome heavy body.

kllrnohj 8y ago
> Really the only thing they are not great at is some part of the interior (and not the important console part at the front) and that they have a somewhat cumbersome heavy body. Pretty sure you're oblivious to what fit and finish means based off of this comment. You listed a bunch of stuff that's not fit and finish followed by acknowledging that stuff that does contribute to fit and finish is poor. Fit and finish are things like panel gaps, paint job quality, interior quality, etc... And Tesla regularly is pitiful at it.