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Most other mockup apps focus on creating low-fidelity (sketched) mockups, whereas jMockups focuses on creating ones that look like the real thing. It fits somew

by matt1 16y ago

Most other mockup apps focus on creating low-fidelity (sketched) mockups, whereas jMockups focuses on creating ones that look like the real thing. It fits somewhere between Balsamiq and Photoshop. I hear you on the Copy/Paste. I want to make it so that it works across browser tabs, which is a bit tricky, so I put it off until after the launch. Thanks for the feedback.

petervandijck 16y ago
The question is: is there a space to be filled between Photoshop and Balsamiq? In fact, there is one, it's detailed wireframes. It's not pixed-perfect html mockups, sorry. I think you've chosen a market that doesn't exist here, I can't imagine anyone actually using this in their work.
- matt1 16y ago
  I don't mean somewhere between low fidelity and high fidelity (medium fidelity?). I mean taking the best of Balsamiq (easy to use) and the best of Photoshop (high fidelity) and combining them into one powerful, easy to use web app. You and I have discussed detailed wireframes via email, and that's not the direction I want to go with this. If it helps, compare it to Photoshop in terms of its ability to create and share mockups. What key features does Photoshop have that jMockups currently doesn't?
  - petervandijck 16y ago
    In Photoshop I can make something look good, I don't get the feeling that I can do that in jmockups. No layers, no visual design (buttons, logos, ...). I really don't understand where this would fit into a workflow, I'm trying to but I don't get it... Are you trying to replace Photoshop for web design? Can I design a good-looking button with the app? (I didn't see how to.) Can I design a logo? (I didn't see how to). Can I design a repeating background pattern? (etc.)
    - matt1 16y ago
      Are you trying to replace Photoshop for web design? Somewhat, yes. Can you make a good looking button? Not as good as Photoshop, yet, but that's definitely on the todo list. Can you design a logo? No, and no plans for it. You can design your logo in Photoshop or Illustrator and import it into jMockups though. Can I design a repeating background pattern? No, and no plans for it, other than gradients. But again, you will be able to add the repeating background to your mockup in the future. You're still going to have to use Photoshop for graphic-intensive tasks. But for designing a site, most people don't need 99% of what Photoshop offers (you might need more because you're a professional wireframer).
      - petervandijck 16y ago
        I don't understand it. So you'll still have to use Photoshop. And you still have to redo the html from scratch. In what step in the web development process do you need pixel-perfect html that's not a Photoshop file and that's not a final html design? I just can't imagine any place I've ever worked using this for actual work, I just don't see a need for pixel-perfect yet not designed throw-away html mockups. I might just be being dense today too. I'm really trying to understand it, but I just don't. Now, if it was a tool that helped me create html+css that I could actually use in production, and that would help me quickly create a visual design that looks decent, that would be useful for me.

by matt1 16y ago

petervandijck 16y ago

The question is: is there a space to be filled between Photoshop and Balsamiq? In fact, there is one, it's detailed wireframes. It's not pixed-perfect html mockups, sorry. I think you've chosen a market that doesn't exist here, I can't imagine anyone actually using this in their work.

matt1 16y ago
I don't mean somewhere between low fidelity and high fidelity (medium fidelity?). I mean taking the best of Balsamiq (easy to use) and the best of Photoshop (high fidelity) and combining them into one powerful, easy to use web app. You and I have discussed detailed wireframes via email, and that's not the direction I want to go with this. If it helps, compare it to Photoshop in terms of its ability to create and share mockups. What key features does Photoshop have that jMockups currently doesn't?
- petervandijck 16y ago
  In Photoshop I can make something look good, I don't get the feeling that I can do that in jmockups. No layers, no visual design (buttons, logos, ...). I really don't understand where this would fit into a workflow, I'm trying to but I don't get it... Are you trying to replace Photoshop for web design? Can I design a good-looking button with the app? (I didn't see how to.) Can I design a logo? (I didn't see how to). Can I design a repeating background pattern? (etc.)
  - matt1 16y ago
    Are you trying to replace Photoshop for web design? Somewhat, yes. Can you make a good looking button? Not as good as Photoshop, yet, but that's definitely on the todo list. Can you design a logo? No, and no plans for it. You can design your logo in Photoshop or Illustrator and import it into jMockups though. Can I design a repeating background pattern? No, and no plans for it, other than gradients. But again, you will be able to add the repeating background to your mockup in the future. You're still going to have to use Photoshop for graphic-intensive tasks. But for designing a site, most people don't need 99% of what Photoshop offers (you might need more because you're a professional wireframer).
    - petervandijck 16y ago
      I don't understand it. So you'll still have to use Photoshop. And you still have to redo the html from scratch. In what step in the web development process do you need pixel-perfect html that's not a Photoshop file and that's not a final html design? I just can't imagine any place I've ever worked using this for actual work, I just don't see a need for pixel-perfect yet not designed throw-away html mockups. I might just be being dense today too. I'm really trying to understand it, but I just don't. Now, if it was a tool that helped me create html+css that I could actually use in production, and that would help me quickly create a visual design that looks decent, that would be useful for me.